God did nothing, particularly with that heathen Trump.chriscbear said:
God used Donald Trump etc to get Roe v Wade overturned. Praise God. He moves in mysterious ways. Amen. Jan 6 hearings waste of time and pure politics.
God did nothing, particularly with that heathen Trump.chriscbear said:
God used Donald Trump etc to get Roe v Wade overturned. Praise God. He moves in mysterious ways. Amen. Jan 6 hearings waste of time and pure politics.
J.B.Katz said:Democracy is still in danger. Republicans have promoted the Big Lie knowing it wasn't true to undermine Biden's legimacy. The honest conservatives on this forum acknowledge Biden won the election. They're in the minority.ATL Bear said:
At least we know democracy was never in danger, and it wasn't an insurrection.
McConnell also undermined the legitmacy of SCOTUS by stealing an appointment from Obama at one end that would have moderated the court (Garland is not a liberal) and by reversing his rule at the other end to steal an appointment from Biden. The court is badly out of balance, and Thomas and Alito are now free to show us who they really are--papofacists who are totally unconcerned about the constitution, the rule of law and blatant conflicts of interest, including a wife who supported the Trump coup (although my theory is that Ginny's a dude).
Trump still controlls the party. Idiots like Mayra Florez are joining as Trump loyalists rather than committed public servants. Many states are trying to get the state assemblies to elect the president instead of the people. At least one person on this forum thinks that's a great idea.
If you are confident your policies will win elections, you don't try to rig the vote.🚨🚨 BIDEN ADMITS TO VOTER FRAUD! 🚨🚨@JoeBiden brags about having the “most extensive VOTER FRAUD organization” in history‼️
— Kayleigh McEnany (@kayleighmcenany) October 24, 2020
WATCH ⬇️pic.twitter.com/ft7u07kUX0
Republicans are trying to rig the vote in every state where that's possible. Democrats have done some gerrymandering, too, but Republicans are much more successful.
We have lots of rural states dictating our national policy. That's not sustainable. Lots of people who never imagined civil war are now finding it difficult to see a future where that doesn't happen, because people are simply not going to capitulate to minority rule, especially by religious fascists.
That's where we are, and Trump Republicans got us here. Cheney is trying to pull us back. I'm not optimistic.
maybe, maybe, maybe, nope, and nope(yet to be prove )J.R. said:Inciting a riot. Planning a coup on our democracy, witness tampering, tax evasion, tax fraud to say the least!RMF5630 said:Ok, with what charge? What is chargeable here that Trump or any of his staff did? If anyone, maybe Giuliani. Problem there is Giuliani was his attorney. If Trump was acting under attorney's advice, real hard to get intent. Come on, what is chargeable? How was Democracy in peril?? Besides just saying it.J.R. said:That mfer should go to jail.RMF5630 said:Ok, enough of this crap. Charge the guy. If you have evidence he broke the law, charge him. This constant droning of allegations and innuendo is ridiculous.J.B.Katz said:NEW: Jan. 6 committee vice chair Liz Cheney shows that witnesses have been receiving mafia-style calls and messages from people close to Trump telling them the former president knows they will remain “loyal” in depositions. Attempted witness tampering.
— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) June 28, 2022
Give us a charge and how you prove it...
🚨 A source close to the Secret Service tells me both Bobby Engel, the lead agent, and the presidential limousine/SUV driver are prepared to testify under oath that neither man was assaulted and that Mr. Trump never lunged for the steering wheel.
— Peter Alexander (@PeterAlexander) June 28, 2022
New: Source close to the Secret Service tells @PierreTABC to expect the Secret Service to push back against any allegation of an assault against an agent or President Trump reaching for the steering wheel.
— John Santucci (@Santucci) June 28, 2022
new fake testimony says what?Cobretti said:🚨 A source close to the Secret Service tells me both Bobby Engel, the lead agent, and the presidential limousine/SUV driver are prepared to testify under oath that neither man was assaulted and that Mr. Trump never lunged for the steering wheel.
— Peter Alexander (@PeterAlexander) June 28, 2022
4th and Inches said:new fake testimony says what?Cobretti said:🚨 A source close to the Secret Service tells me both Bobby Engel, the lead agent, and the presidential limousine/SUV driver are prepared to testify under oath that neither man was assaulted and that Mr. Trump never lunged for the steering wheel.
— Peter Alexander (@PeterAlexander) June 28, 2022
Put them on a stand, they won't because it rebuts their narrative but it might make the ratings go upOsodecentx said:4th and Inches said:new fake testimony says what?Cobretti said:🚨 A source close to the Secret Service tells me both Bobby Engel, the lead agent, and the presidential limousine/SUV driver are prepared to testify under oath that neither man was assaulted and that Mr. Trump never lunged for the steering wheel.
— Peter Alexander (@PeterAlexander) June 28, 2022
Hearsay?
J.R. said:Inciting a riot. Planning a coup on our democracy, witness tampering, tax evasion, tax fraud to say the least!RMF5630 said:Ok, with what charge? What is chargeable here that Trump or any of his staff did? If anyone, maybe Giuliani. Problem there is Giuliani was his attorney. If Trump was acting under attorney's advice, real hard to get intent. Come on, what is chargeable? How was Democracy in peril?? Besides just saying it.J.R. said:That mfer should go to jail.RMF5630 said:Ok, enough of this crap. Charge the guy. If you have evidence he broke the law, charge him. This constant droning of allegations and innuendo is ridiculous.J.B.Katz said:NEW: Jan. 6 committee vice chair Liz Cheney shows that witnesses have been receiving mafia-style calls and messages from people close to Trump telling them the former president knows they will remain “loyal” in depositions. Attempted witness tampering.
— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) June 28, 2022
Give us a charge and how you prove it...
J.R. said:Inciting a riot. Planning a coup on our democracy, witness tampering, tax evasion, tax fraud to say the least!RMF5630 said:Ok, with what charge? What is chargeable here that Trump or any of his staff did? If anyone, maybe Giuliani. Problem there is Giuliani was his attorney. If Trump was acting under attorney's advice, real hard to get intent. Come on, what is chargeable? How was Democracy in peril?? Besides just saying it.J.R. said:That mfer should go to jail.RMF5630 said:Ok, enough of this crap. Charge the guy. If you have evidence he broke the law, charge him. This constant droning of allegations and innuendo is ridiculous.J.B.Katz said:NEW: Jan. 6 committee vice chair Liz Cheney shows that witnesses have been receiving mafia-style calls and messages from people close to Trump telling them the former president knows they will remain “loyal” in depositions. Attempted witness tampering.
— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) June 28, 2022
Give us a charge and how you prove it...
C. Jordan said:4th and Inches said:but your ability to draw conclusions needs work.J.B.Katz said:
After reading some of these comments I have drawn this conclusion,
Jesus Christ could come back to earth, take off his sandals and try to beat some sense into people about Trump, and it wouldn't make a bit of difference.
J.B.Katz said:And the gaslighting Trump's awful behavior away begins.Harrison Bergeron said:
The grabbing the steering wheel hearsay conspiracy is even more stupid than the Capitol tours conspiracy. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to make one phone all and understand Secret Service protocols. Hint: president's don't ride in the front seat. I will give Shifty credit: it is clever because he knows the SS will not comment so she can make all the crazy claims she wants and she won't be refuted.
Back when we had actual journalists, one would have made the call and figured out it's not possible. If it were a Democrat, the story would be:
"A woman who was passed over for a job with former president Obama alleged X ... we spoke to our Mr. Expert, who said that that was not possible because of Y. There are allegations that said woman had a grudge against President Obama for passing her over for a promised position with his foundation."
Bloomberg disagrees with you as wellC. Jordan said:This is what Trump said, but we don't know it to be true and we don't know her side of the story.4th and Inches said:
Not defending Trump here- just passing the info.. Hurchinson just changed lawyers so now you are getting this new info. She also requested to be on the Trump team that transitioned to Florida from white house in 2020 but was rejected.
In 2019 Pelosi said:
"I am a longtime Member of the Ethics Committee, and, there, we just followed the facts...No hearsay...All objective. "
Some of what yall heard today was hearsay and no chance of cross or corroboration. Take it for what it is..
At least it was new and semi interesting
Plus, she testified under oath and Trump never will.
and you are just effing dumb and short sighted!SIC EM 94 said:J.R. said:Inciting a riot. Planning a coup on our democracy, witness tampering, tax evasion, tax fraud to say the least!RMF5630 said:Ok, with what charge? What is chargeable here that Trump or any of his staff did? If anyone, maybe Giuliani. Problem there is Giuliani was his attorney. If Trump was acting under attorney's advice, real hard to get intent. Come on, what is chargeable? How was Democracy in peril?? Besides just saying it.J.R. said:That mfer should go to jail.RMF5630 said:Ok, enough of this crap. Charge the guy. If you have evidence he broke the law, charge him. This constant droning of allegations and innuendo is ridiculous.J.B.Katz said:NEW: Jan. 6 committee vice chair Liz Cheney shows that witnesses have been receiving mafia-style calls and messages from people close to Trump telling them the former president knows they will remain “loyal” in depositions. Attempted witness tampering.
— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) June 28, 2022
Give us a charge and how you prove it...
Hilarious…geez you are such a Karen! To say the least. an
Tony Ornato is denying that he told Cassidy Hutchinson Trump grabbed the steering wheel in presidential vehicle on 1/6 or lunged at a fellow agent, a USSS official tells @joshscampbell. CNN confirms that Ornato & Enger are prepared to testify that neither incident occurred.
— Gabby Orr (@GabbyOrr_) June 29, 2022
ATL Bear said:
No one who testified in this hearing is at risk of a perjury charge, so you can be as fast and loose with the truth as you'd like to be.
you obviously did not see the testimony today. pathetic.RMF5630 said:J.R. said:Inciting a riot. Planning a coup on our democracy, witness tampering, tax evasion, tax fraud to say the least!RMF5630 said:Ok, with what charge? What is chargeable here that Trump or any of his staff did? If anyone, maybe Giuliani. Problem there is Giuliani was his attorney. If Trump was acting under attorney's advice, real hard to get intent. Come on, what is chargeable? How was Democracy in peril?? Besides just saying it.J.R. said:That mfer should go to jail.RMF5630 said:Ok, enough of this crap. Charge the guy. If you have evidence he broke the law, charge him. This constant droning of allegations and innuendo is ridiculous.J.B.Katz said:NEW: Jan. 6 committee vice chair Liz Cheney shows that witnesses have been receiving mafia-style calls and messages from people close to Trump telling them the former president knows they will remain “loyal” in depositions. Attempted witness tampering.
— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) June 28, 2022
Give us a charge and how you prove it...
Inciting a riot? He is on tape saying to demonstrate peacefully.
What statute is "coup on our democracy" under? Let's agree to use big person talk if we are going to discuss serious matters, ok? Once again, vote was certified, he left and Biden inaugurated. Sort of hard to prove a coup when everything happened on time.
Tax evasion? How long has that been talked about with no proof? You can't just say you think, there has to be proof. So far, nothing.
Tax Fraud, again how is that going?
They have had 5 years, two impeachment, a Commission and a court case in NY to find something. Yet to date, nothing. To say the least
So far all he is guilty of is being an *******.
To say the least.
J.R. said:
Also, before any of you start, I know someone who worked in the West Wing for 2 years with Ms. Huchinson, and by all accounts, she is stand up, solid, and honest!
No those are your words. According to the testimony today Trump told Security at the White House to turn off the scanners. I watched the Jan 6th protest on TV and was surprised the Capital Police were not ready for the things that happened.4th and Inches said:Trump told the capital police to turn off metal detectors and stand down and be unprepared for violence? Is that what you are saying?Guy Noir said:Sam Lowry said:
If Trump knew there was likely to be violence, that's relevant to his intentions when he sent the crowd to the Capitol. Plus you've got the new information about witness tampering.
Good point.
Plus; Trump ordered the turning off of the metal scanners on Jan 6 in spite of reports that people that wanted to get into the crowd were reported to be carrying firearms.
Plus:. The Capitol police were not ready for the protest at the Capital Building in spite of indicators that a serious protest was going to happen.
J.R. said:you obviously did not see the testimony today. pathetic.RMF5630 said:J.R. said:Inciting a riot. Planning a coup on our democracy, witness tampering, tax evasion, tax fraud to say the least!RMF5630 said:Ok, with what charge? What is chargeable here that Trump or any of his staff did? If anyone, maybe Giuliani. Problem there is Giuliani was his attorney. If Trump was acting under attorney's advice, real hard to get intent. Come on, what is chargeable? How was Democracy in peril?? Besides just saying it.J.R. said:That mfer should go to jail.RMF5630 said:Ok, enough of this crap. Charge the guy. If you have evidence he broke the law, charge him. This constant droning of allegations and innuendo is ridiculous.J.B.Katz said:NEW: Jan. 6 committee vice chair Liz Cheney shows that witnesses have been receiving mafia-style calls and messages from people close to Trump telling them the former president knows they will remain “loyal” in depositions. Attempted witness tampering.
— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) June 28, 2022
Give us a charge and how you prove it...
Inciting a riot? He is on tape saying to demonstrate peacefully.
What statute is "coup on our democracy" under? Let's agree to use big person talk if we are going to discuss serious matters, ok? Once again, vote was certified, he left and Biden inaugurated. Sort of hard to prove a coup when everything happened on time.
Tax evasion? How long has that been talked about with no proof? You can't just say you think, there has to be proof. So far, nothing.
Tax Fraud, again how is that going?
They have had 5 years, two impeachment, a Commission and a court case in NY to find something. Yet to date, nothing. To say the least
So far all he is guilty of is being an *******.
To say the least.
You think all of these conservative Republicans are lying?ATL Bear said:
No one who testified in this hearing is at risk of a perjury charge, so you can be as fast and loose with the truth as you'd like to be.
I have no idea. Without cross examination it's hard to assess breadth, intent, and severity.Osodecentx said:You think all of these conservative Republicans are lying?ATL Bear said:
No one who testified in this hearing is at risk of a perjury charge, so you can be as fast and loose with the truth as you'd like to be.
BREAKING: Christine Blasey Ford to swear under oath she saw Trump personally give a Russian J6 protestor an AR-15 with a bump stock and spray full auto fire into a crowd of innocent LGBTQ+@~ pro-choice advocates defending a Native American from Kyle Rittenhouse
— Undercover Huber (@JohnWHuber) June 28, 2022
you were ambigous and I questioned for clarity.. enjoy your eveningGuy Noir said:No those are your words. According to the testimony today Trump told Security at the White House to turn off the scanners. I watched the Jan 6th protest on TV and was surprised the Capital Police were not ready for the things that happened.4th and Inches said:Trump told the capital police to turn off metal detectors and stand down and be unprepared for violence? Is that what you are saying?Guy Noir said:Sam Lowry said:
If Trump knew there was likely to be violence, that's relevant to his intentions when he sent the crowd to the Capitol. Plus you've got the new information about witness tampering.
Good point.
Plus; Trump ordered the turning off of the metal scanners on Jan 6 in spite of reports that people that wanted to get into the crowd were reported to be carrying firearms.
Plus:. The Capitol police were not ready for the protest at the Capital Building in spite of indicators that a serious protest was going to happen.
you think all these people testifying are republican and conservative?Osodecentx said:You think all of these conservative Republicans are lying?ATL Bear said:
No one who testified in this hearing is at risk of a perjury charge, so you can be as fast and loose with the truth as you'd like to be.
LOL. Triggered much?J.R. said:God did nothing, particularly with that heathen Trump.chriscbear said:
God used Donald Trump etc to get Roe v Wade overturned. Praise God. He moves in mysterious ways. Amen. Jan 6 hearings waste of time and pure politics.
Can't believe anything about Trump that comes from RINOs, the democrats and the media.Cobretti said:🚨 A source close to the Secret Service tells me both Bobby Engel, the lead agent, and the presidential limousine/SUV driver are prepared to testify under oath that neither man was assaulted and that Mr. Trump never lunged for the steering wheel.
— Peter Alexander (@PeterAlexander) June 28, 2022New: Source close to the Secret Service tells @PierreTABC to expect the Secret Service to push back against any allegation of an assault against an agent or President Trump reaching for the steering wheel.
— John Santucci (@Santucci) June 28, 2022
NEW: Statement from @_WilliamsonBen, former top aide to Mark Meadows, who refuted Hutchinson testimony that MM didn’t seem to care about violence at Capitol on Jan. 6:
— Scott Wong (@scottwongDC) June 28, 2022
“I’ve worked for Mark Meadows for 7 years — any suggestion he didn’t care is ludicrous” https://t.co/39WxTdegBc pic.twitter.com/zYbJikoaSx
Says the village idiotJ.R. said:and you are just effing dumb and short sighted!SIC EM 94 said:J.R. said:Inciting a riot. Planning a coup on our democracy, witness tampering, tax evasion, tax fraud to say the least!RMF5630 said:Ok, with what charge? What is chargeable here that Trump or any of his staff did? If anyone, maybe Giuliani. Problem there is Giuliani was his attorney. If Trump was acting under attorney's advice, real hard to get intent. Come on, what is chargeable? How was Democracy in peril?? Besides just saying it.J.R. said:That mfer should go to jail.RMF5630 said:Ok, enough of this crap. Charge the guy. If you have evidence he broke the law, charge him. This constant droning of allegations and innuendo is ridiculous.J.B.Katz said:NEW: Jan. 6 committee vice chair Liz Cheney shows that witnesses have been receiving mafia-style calls and messages from people close to Trump telling them the former president knows they will remain “loyal” in depositions. Attempted witness tampering.
— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) June 28, 2022
Give us a charge and how you prove it...
Hilarious…geez you are such a Karen! To say the least. an
“Trump White House lawyer Eric Herschmann is claiming a handwritten note regarding a potential statement for then-President Trump to release during the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol was written by him… that afternoon, & not by WH aide Cassidy Hutchinson.”https://t.co/jtHVNe0vRH pic.twitter.com/Q21eVleRsm
— Jerry Dunleavy (@JerryDunleavy) June 29, 2022
Cheney displayed a note today that Cassidy Hutchinson claimed to have written, except White House lawyer Eric Herschmann had already told the committee that he wrote the note in question. pic.twitter.com/77Av0sLaRe
— Chuck Ross (@ChuckRossDC) June 29, 2022