Illegals in Martha's Vineyard

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Redbrickbear said:

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Excellent video if/when you have some windshield time.

"Population decline, not climate change, is an existential threat to the West"


We are simply re-learning in real time why villages, tribes, peoples, empires, etc.....have risen and fallen. It's mostly due to population explosion and collapse. Whatever else a civilization has going for or against it, the growth or decline of population usually trumps it all.

Our willingness and ability to engage in large scale immigration will propel us to an even stronger position two centuries than we enjoy today. We will likely be the largest, in terms of population, country in the world with the largest economy in the world, largest military in the world, etc......

Maybe.

But it completely depends what kind of immigration and by whom.

If population alone made a country great then Pakistan (242 million people) would be greater than South Korea (51 million)

And South Africa (59 million) would be greater than Texas (29 million) or the Netherlands (17 million)

Would you trade the people of Texas for the people of South Africa?

The difference is not the people. It's social contract.

Ours, for all its flaws, is the best
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whiterock said:

Excellent video if/when you have some windshield time.

"Population decline, not climate change, is an existential threat to the West"


We are simply re-learning in real time why villages, tribes, peoples, empires, etc.....have risen and fallen. It's mostly due to population explosion and collapse. Whatever else a civilization has going for or against it, the growth or decline of population usually trumps it all.

Our willingness and ability to engage in large scale immigration will propel us to an even stronger position two centuries than we enjoy today. We will likely be the largest, in terms of population, country in the world with the largest economy in the world, largest military in the world, etc......


Replacement theory. Lulz.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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Cobretti said:





Take the money from the NGOs and churches that are facilitating the caravans.
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quash said:

whiterock said:

Excellent video if/when you have some windshield time.

"Population decline, not climate change, is an existential threat to the West"


We are simply re-learning in real time why villages, tribes, peoples, empires, etc.....have risen and fallen. It's mostly due to population explosion and collapse. Whatever else a civilization has going for or against it, the growth or decline of population usually trumps it all.

Our willingness and ability to engage in large scale immigration will propel us to an even stronger position two centuries than we enjoy today. We will likely be the largest, in terms of population, country in the world with the largest economy in the world, largest military in the world, etc......


Replacement theory. Lulz.

It's no theory. It's plain history. Peoples have replaced peoples over and over and over for millennia, and much of it was driven by population dynamics. Expanding populations moving into areas occupied by declining populations. And it as a contentious issue every time it happened. Every. Time....

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This is beautiful. Any cities that came out as a sanctuary cities need to take in all of these migrants. You want 'em, you got 'em. Buena suerte.
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whiterock said:

quash said:

whiterock said:

Excellent video if/when you have some windshield time.

"Population decline, not climate change, is an existential threat to the West"


We are simply re-learning in real time why villages, tribes, peoples, empires, etc.....have risen and fallen. It's mostly due to population explosion and collapse. Whatever else a civilization has going for or against it, the growth or decline of population usually trumps it all.

Our willingness and ability to engage in large scale immigration will propel us to an even stronger position two centuries than we enjoy today. We will likely be the largest, in terms of population, country in the world with the largest economy in the world, largest military in the world, etc......


Replacement theory. Lulz.

It's no theory. It's plain history. Peoples have replaced peoples over and over and over for millennia, and much of it was driven by population dynamics. Expanding populations moving into areas occupied by declining populations. And it as a contentious issue every time it happened. Every. Time....


Yep

Quash acts like the Arab invasions of of North Africa and the middle East never took place.

Or Jewish migration to Palestine in the early 20th century never took place.

Or the conquest of Anatolia by the Turks

Or the European migrations to North America.


how does he think these people:






Became all these:



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Redbrickbear said:

whiterock said:

quash said:

whiterock said:

Excellent video if/when you have some windshield time.

"Population decline, not climate change, is an existential threat to the West"


We are simply re-learning in real time why villages, tribes, peoples, empires, etc.....have risen and fallen. It's mostly due to population explosion and collapse. Whatever else a civilization has going for or against it, the growth or decline of population usually trumps it all.

Our willingness and ability to engage in large scale immigration will propel us to an even stronger position two centuries than we enjoy today. We will likely be the largest, in terms of population, country in the world with the largest economy in the world, largest military in the world, etc......


Replacement theory. Lulz.

It's no theory. It's plain history. Peoples have replaced peoples over and over and over for millennia, and much of it was driven by population dynamics. Expanding populations moving into areas occupied by declining populations. And it as a contentious issue every time it happened. Every. Time....


Yep

Quash acts like the Arab invasions of of North Africa and the middle East never took place.

Or Jewish migration to Palestine in the early 20th century never took place.

Or the conquest of Anatolia by the Turks

Or the European migrations to North America.


how does he think these people:






Became all these:




the best examples of the population boom/bust cycles are the repeated influxes of new tribes no one had ever heard of from the Eurasian Steppes. Global warming kept moving habitability northwards, enticing people out of the taiga and onto once unlivable plains. Some got slaughtered or incorporated into stronger cultures. And some got moved out to go find living space somewhere else, by either stronger cultures or by weather fluctuations. Life was tough where you were? Just ride west and take from some wealthy culture no longer willing or able to fight.

The advance of Islam, however, is quite a different thing. It was the first "big idea" movement, the first political ideology movement. There were not enough Arabs to conquer the current Islamic world. Rather, Arabs carried their ideas when they conquered neighbors, who converted to arab ideas, then moved on to conquer the next neighbor who adopted Arab ideas.....all the way across North Africa, Spain, up to Tours, France.....thru the Balkans to Vienna, Austria and over to Sebastopol, Crimea.....across Iran...and India...down thru Indonesia...up thru Central Asia to Mongolia. This occurred in waves over centuries, different ends of the realm, by armies of different languages and ethnicity, united by one big idea. Very different dynamics to the conventional empire building of Alexander, who had nothing but kingship and feudal relationships to manage his empire. Islam was the Big Idea that harmonized everything, put everyone on the same mapsheet. The Romans had citizenship to build the idea of common good, and it was powerful, but didn't last nearly as long as Islam, which is absolutely amazing in its ability to propagate and maintain itself as a form of social contract amongst various cultures, languages, etc....... No other political ideology has endured so long. Nothing else is even remotely close.
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I think it is much simpler than that. I think The Big Guy is on the payroll of the cartels. That is the only reason I can see he would completely dismantle U.S. immigration policy. $Billions of dollars at stake for human and drug trafficking. Biden is definitely not doing it on his own.
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whiterock said:

quash said:

whiterock said:

Excellent video if/when you have some windshield time.

"Population decline, not climate change, is an existential threat to the West"


We are simply re-learning in real time why villages, tribes, peoples, empires, etc.....have risen and fallen. It's mostly due to population explosion and collapse. Whatever else a civilization has going for or against it, the growth or decline of population usually trumps it all.

Our willingness and ability to engage in large scale immigration will propel us to an even stronger position two centuries than we enjoy today. We will likely be the largest, in terms of population, country in the world with the largest economy in the world, largest military in the world, etc......


Replacement theory. Lulz.

It's no theory. It's plain history. Peoples have replaced peoples over and over and over for millennia, and much of it was driven by population dynamics. Expanding populations moving into areas occupied by declining populations. And it as a contentious issue every time it happened. Every. Time....



Sure.

And what you're spouting is as racist as any prior use of RT as a rallying cry to harm the Other.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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quash said:

whiterock said:

quash said:

whiterock said:

Excellent video if/when you have some windshield time.

"Population decline, not climate change, is an existential threat to the West"


We are simply re-learning in real time why villages, tribes, peoples, empires, etc.....have risen and fallen. It's mostly due to population explosion and collapse. Whatever else a civilization has going for or against it, the growth or decline of population usually trumps it all.

Our willingness and ability to engage in large scale immigration will propel us to an even stronger position two centuries than we enjoy today. We will likely be the largest, in terms of population, country in the world with the largest economy in the world, largest military in the world, etc......


Replacement theory. Lulz.

It's no theory. It's plain history. Peoples have replaced peoples over and over and over for millennia, and much of it was driven by population dynamics. Expanding populations moving into areas occupied by declining populations. And it as a contentious issue every time it happened. Every. Time....



Sure.

And what you're spouting is as racist as any prior use of RT as a rallying cry to harm the Other.

that kind of classic projection is quite harmful to social contract, and a big reason for the divide in the country. You NEED racists to posture against, and when you have none, you conjure them..

I'm just citing history. Settled populations tend to be tolerant of new people, until too many new people arrive, then the settled population gets agitated. That's human nature. Political leadership is wise to avoid causing it. But, sometimes, people who think feel the way you do actually do cause it, so they can cite the completely normal backlash as an evil which much be extirpated.

Doesn't matter what color are the settled populations, or what color are the expanding populations. Too much change, too fast....is always a prescription for problems. Not since the Roman Empire has a social contract system been able to manage as immigration related pressures as America. So hats' off to us. But there is a limit to what a melting pot can handle. At some point, if uncontrolled, it boils over. And right now, we have stuff starting to splatter on the stove.

But the whole process makes you feel superior, so it's all good, I suppose. Nazis and Communists felt superior, too, you know......
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Cobretti said:


the got-aways are the ones we spotted and failed to catch. Never discussed are the ones who crossed and never got spotted. Straight from the lips of a BP supervisor to my ears: whatever is the number of apprehensions are, double it and that's the number of crossings. We don't even catch half.

Pastures in certain areas of South Texas are literally littered with debris dropped by illegals. On a property near a drop-off or pick up point....socks, kotex, spare underwear, ace bandages, empty water bottles....you can stand in one spot and see a dozen or more items laying the ground. I took a video of a game fence on the north boundary of our lease......on a five mile drive, at 95% of the fence posts wire was bent down 1' or more from weight of groups scaling over the top.

I do not leave my trailer after dark without sidearm attached, and lock the door even if I'm just walking over to the mess hall. If I'm not IN the trailer, door is locked. Don't want to walk into any surprises...... Illegals are not looking to do harm. They're just cold, thirsty, hungry, tired, etc......at considerably more than comfort level, occasionally existentially so. Season before last, one of our trucks found a teenage girl curled up at the front gate to the Alta Visa (Hqs) pasture of the Jones Ranch (325k acres). Frost was on the ground. She couldn't walk any more and knew someone would eventually drive thru the gate after daybreak. All she had on was a long-sleeved t-shirt. They had to carry her and lay her in the back seat of the truck. She couldn't walk or communicate.

Also season before last at a nearby ranch......one hunting rig got rushed by a group of illegals. Seems a few of them thought the truck was the ride, so started running toward it. The rest assumed the runners knew something they didn't, so they started running, too. Took a few shotgun blasts into the air to restore order.

USBP told one of my buddies not to call when discovering an illegal unless the illegal was in medical distress. Not enough resources.....

Not a lot of anecdotes from this past season. No birds, so no hunters, ergo no contacts. Illegals had the ranches mostly to themselves. It's been out of control for years, and look at what's lining up to come. Like the Sooner land rush....
 
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