Illegals in Martha's Vineyard

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ScottS said:

I guess rich libs can't handle what they say should be tolerated. Bused out in less than 1 day.
Libs can't help themselves. They're always getting in their own way. Everything out of their mouth is so easily contradicted by the opposition, or more embarrassingly, they themselves.
It's tough being a liberal. Pretending to be something you're not, and then failing to live up to that contrived "image" at every turn.
They opened the borders as a political ploy. And it's the Republicans who are using the illegal immigrants as political tools? lol. The Republicans are dong the "human trafficking." Says the party flying illegal immigrants around the country in the middle of the night.
Come on, "sanctuary" cities....put your money where your mouth is.
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Tone deaf clown..
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4th and Inches said:



Tone deaf clown..
Just wait until they get a critical mass and cars and homes start getting broken into, drugs start flooding the Vineyard, and some folks get hit by drunk drivers who should not even be in the country.

Next stops are The Hamptons and Kennebunkport. Do you think the rich Yankee women have ever seen a good, proper rooster fight?
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Golem said:

Canada2017 said:

J.R. said:

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J.R. said:

Terrible bit by DeSantis. These are real people (who came here illegally) and should not be used as political pawns. To the GOP and DEMS.....Fix the effing immigration problem. We need immigration, but it needs to be legal. It just should not be that freaking hard.


Yes sir they are real people ….so are US citizens.

Our jobs, standard of living and safety should take priority in our own country .
who cleans your house, who mows your yard, who cleans ur pool?


Are you seriously telling me you are willing to indefinitely support millions of illegals throughout our country just so you can have a maid and lawn boy ?




Yes. That's exactly what he's telling you.
Some of you have comprehension issues. What I SAID, was it is amazing the we as Repubs and Demns can't sit down with the Govs and get immigration figured out. We need immigration to an extent, but it has to be managed, reasonable and legal. That is what I am saying. Get if freaking fixed. I blame both parties.
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The problem is that the left's 15 year narrative is that the Republican Party is entirely racist to the core, and anything they want on immigration is driven entirely by racism. So they've backed themselves into a spot where anything other than totally open borders is racism. And they are supported in this absurd narrative by the media, who won't let them back down from that narrative.
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Cobretti said:




I'm guessing this is his family?

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

Keep sending them, and this time send them the criminals and drugs that flood across our borders too. Give them a REAL taste of what's going on. Fifty pre-screened migrants all neatly brought to them in a bus isn't even close to the reality of the situation. Time for elitist democrat snobs to get the wake up call of their lives. The entertainment we get from their reaction is just a bonus.

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He Hate Me said:

4th and Inches said:



Tone deaf clown..
Just wait until they get a critical mass and cars and homes start getting broken into, drugs start flooding the Vineyard, and some folks get hit by drunk drivers who should not even be in the country.

Not as big a concern there anymore after Teddy died,
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Redbrickbear said:


Immigrants have to choose between living under a bridge in 100 degree temps or...Philadelphia.

That's a tough one.
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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

Keep sending them, and this time send them the criminals and drugs that flood across our borders too. Give them a REAL taste of what's going on. Fifty pre-screened migrants all neatly brought to them in a bus isn't even close to the reality of the situation. Time for elitist democrat snobs to get the wake up call of their lives. The entertainment we get from their reaction is just a bonus.


Remember Mariel Boat Lift, I lived through that in Florida. They are not sending there brightest and best. Liberty City was and is more dangerous than most 3rd world nations.

https://original.newsbreak.com/@toni-koraza-561162/2294363833622-fbi-warns-the-most-dangerous-zip-code-in-miami

Be prepared Texas. I am sure you already know, but it is not pretty, smooth or without pain. Mariel was 40 years go.
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Cobretti said:


That's hilarious. Suddenly those poor illegals that traveled thousands of miles by themselves were left to fend for themselves with only the government there to feed, clothe and house them until the military could escort them to a base.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?
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"I believe people need to be held accountable for it to the extent possible," [Bexar County Sheriff Javier Salazar] said. "At this point, I'm not able to definitively say here's the statute that they broke either federal, state or local. But what I can tell you is it's wrong just from a human rights perspective, what was done to these folks is wrong."
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Cobretti said:


"I believe people need to be held accountable for it to the extent possible," [Bexar County Sheriff Javier Salazar] said. "At this point, I'm not able to definitively say here's the statute that they broke either federal, state or local. But what I can tell you is it's wrong just from a human rights perspective, what was done to these folks is wrong."


Human Rights? Bro, violate my human rights by giving me a free trip to Martha's Vineyard in the late summer or early fall and giving me a free meal and housing.
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Most of these migrants are seeking asylum. Venezuela is a failed state. Whether they qualify for asylum is a question to be decided by immigration courts that have been poorly staffed and overburdened under both Dems and Reps, but they do have a legal right to request it.

How is lying to desperate people and then dumping them out like stray dogs and cats dumped on the side of rural highways to fend for themselves in any way Christian? These migrants weren't even in Florida. Jesus Christ was a refugee. Mary and Joseph fled Harod's murder campaign into Egypt. Where would DeSantis have dumped them?

America needs immigrants. We have an aging population and lots of work that needs doing. Bush tried & his own party wouldn't support him. DeSantis pulling a stunt like this doesn't bode well for any serious attempts to fix the situation, and the unending GOP talking points blaming the "border crisis" on Biden are disingenuous when Republicans also refuse to work with Biden / Democrats on anything.
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J.B.Katz said:

Most of these migrants are seeking asylum. Venezuela is a failed state. Whether they qualify for asylum is a question to be decided by immigration courts that have been poorly staffed and overburdened under both Dems and Reps, but they do have a legal right to request it.

How is lying to desperate people and then dumping them out like stray dogs and cats dumped on the side of rural highways to fend for themselves in any way Christian? These migrants weren't even in Florida. Jesus Christ was a refugee. Mary and Joseph fled Harod's murder campaign into Egypt. Where would DeSantis have dumped them?

America needs immigrants. We have an aging population and lots of work that needs doing. Bush tried & his own party wouldn't support him. DeSantis pulling a stunt like this doesn't bode well for any serious attempts to fix the situation, and the unending GOP talking points blaming the "border crisis" on Biden are disingenuous when Republicans also refuse to work with Biden / Democrats on anything.
He dropped them off at a self proclaimed sanctuary city ran by democrats.

"Sanctuary cities" need to nut up or shut up. It's all fun and games until they actually have to start giving the sanctuary that they've been proclaiming to provide to posture themselves on a pedestal.
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Welcome to the world you democrats created.

If we can't live in peace together, then you will suffer with us through your own medicine. This is your future.
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J.B.Katz said:

Most of these migrants are seeking asylum. Venezuela is a failed state. Whether they qualify for asylum is a question to be decided by immigration courts that have been poorly staffed and overburdened under both Dems and Reps, but they do have a legal right to request it.

How is lying to desperate people and then dumping them out like stray dogs and cats dumped on the side of rural highways to fend for themselves in any way Christian? These migrants weren't even in Florida. Jesus Christ was a refugee. Mary and Joseph fled Harod's murder campaign into Egypt. Where would DeSantis have dumped them?

America needs immigrants. We have an aging population and lots of work that needs doing. Bush tried & his own party wouldn't support him. DeSantis pulling a stunt like this doesn't bode well for any serious attempts to fix the situation, and the unending GOP talking points blaming the "border crisis" on Biden are disingenuous when Republicans also refuse to work with Biden / Democrats on anything.


No country on earth can economically absorb or employ the millions of surplus, unskilled laborers from south and Central America desiring to come to the United States….each year .

It is that simple .

Existing immigration laws were established for a reason .

Biden is refusing to enforce them .
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Wangchung said:

Porteroso said:

Canada2017 said:

Porteroso said:



I don't know about dropping them off at Kamela's front door, that's purely politics, but I love the idea that they are getting access to all this welcome and aid all across the US.
How many additional illegals should we welcome and provide aid ?

2 million

5 million

10 million

20 million


Unlimited ?
Once again, talking about illegals, and legal migrants, are 2 different conversations. I think no state will be bussing illegals up North, they'd get into some serious legal trouble, aiding illegals.

So these are legal migrants. We do not take in unlimited, we theoretically have a plan for these migrants who come to the US the right way, with the right paperwork, backgrounds (maybe) checked.

If you're aware of all this, I don't understand your point.

edit: You guys are howling like hyenas but assuming I'm right and these aren't illegals, you're making leftist points for the left. You see brown people and immediately jump to "deport the illegals." That's not a good look........

As I said, Abbott is doing these people a huge favor. Desantis I'm not sure, if he just keeps flying them to resorts, that doesn't seem like doing them a favor. But bussing to large sanctuary cities with the social services and available jobs to give these people a great chance at a new life is just an amazing opportunity. Why not frame it as that? Why do you guys have to drone on and on about how much you hate
illegals?
Funny, you want to pretend illegals are suddenly legal simply because Biden asks them to super duper pinky promise to appear at a court date later. What we see here is as plain as your deflection; democrats wanted to do exactly what you're doing here and play the race card every time anyone sought to secure the border. Democrats pronounced to the world that illegals were welcome in their sanctuary cities (why would legal immigrants need sanctuary?) Now we see you democrats losing your minds that brown people are showing up where they were invited and it's back to the race card. Oh right, YOU claim you're happy and that, despite their own protestations by the cities themselves, these sanctuary cities have a plan to serve these illegals, right? Nevermind what they're saying about not having space or resources, trust you on this, right? Hahaha, hey, we are glad at least one leftist likes this, because forcing democrats to reveal their hypocrisy in such a public fashion is greatness to the rest of us.


Thought conservatives wanted to apply the law as written. Characterize it as condescendingly as you want, when those people stepped on the bus they were legally in this country.
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J.B.Katz said:

Most of these migrants are seeking asylum. Venezuela is a failed state.


That is not a legal basis for asylum. If that is what they say in their credible fear interview, then they should be immediately sent back for that. And for not applying for asylum in the first safe nation they entered.
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Booray said:

Wangchung said:

Porteroso said:

Canada2017 said:

Porteroso said:



I don't know about dropping them off at Kamela's front door, that's purely politics, but I love the idea that they are getting access to all this welcome and aid all across the US.
How many additional illegals should we welcome and provide aid ?

2 million

5 million

10 million

20 million


Unlimited ?
Once again, talking about illegals, and legal migrants, are 2 different conversations. I think no state will be bussing illegals up North, they'd get into some serious legal trouble, aiding illegals.

So these are legal migrants. We do not take in unlimited, we theoretically have a plan for these migrants who come to the US the right way, with the right paperwork, backgrounds (maybe) checked.

If you're aware of all this, I don't understand your point.

edit: You guys are howling like hyenas but assuming I'm right and these aren't illegals, you're making leftist points for the left. You see brown people and immediately jump to "deport the illegals." That's not a good look........

As I said, Abbott is doing these people a huge favor. Desantis I'm not sure, if he just keeps flying them to resorts, that doesn't seem like doing them a favor. But bussing to large sanctuary cities with the social services and available jobs to give these people a great chance at a new life is just an amazing opportunity. Why not frame it as that? Why do you guys have to drone on and on about how much you hate
illegals?
Funny, you want to pretend illegals are suddenly legal simply because Biden asks them to super duper pinky promise to appear at a court date later. What we see here is as plain as your deflection; democrats wanted to do exactly what you're doing here and play the race card every time anyone sought to secure the border. Democrats pronounced to the world that illegals were welcome in their sanctuary cities (why would legal immigrants need sanctuary?) Now we see you democrats losing your minds that brown people are showing up where they were invited and it's back to the race card. Oh right, YOU claim you're happy and that, despite their own protestations by the cities themselves, these sanctuary cities have a plan to serve these illegals, right? Nevermind what they're saying about not having space or resources, trust you on this, right? Hahaha, hey, we are glad at least one leftist likes this, because forcing democrats to reveal their hypocrisy in such a public fashion is greatness to the rest of us.


Thought conservatives wanted to apply the law as written. Characterize it as condescendingly as you want, when those people stepped on the bus they were legally in this country.


So the outcry about "transporting illegals" was just the same kind of political stunt that sending them to MV was?

I have little doubt that DeSantis is trying to score political points, but sending a handful of folks to one of America's most exclusive vacation spots also brings a very serious issue that has been basically ignored to closer to the top of the list.
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D. C. Bear said:

Booray said:

Wangchung said:

Porteroso said:

Canada2017 said:

Porteroso said:



I don't know about dropping them off at Kamela's front door, that's purely politics, but I love the idea that they are getting access to all this welcome and aid all across the US.
How many additional illegals should we welcome and provide aid ?

2 million

5 million

10 million

20 million


Unlimited ?
Once again, talking about illegals, and legal migrants, are 2 different conversations. I think no state will be bussing illegals up North, they'd get into some serious legal trouble, aiding illegals.

So these are legal migrants. We do not take in unlimited, we theoretically have a plan for these migrants who come to the US the right way, with the right paperwork, backgrounds (maybe) checked.

If you're aware of all this, I don't understand your point.

edit: You guys are howling like hyenas but assuming I'm right and these aren't illegals, you're making leftist points for the left. You see brown people and immediately jump to "deport the illegals." That's not a good look........

As I said, Abbott is doing these people a huge favor. Desantis I'm not sure, if he just keeps flying them to resorts, that doesn't seem like doing them a favor. But bussing to large sanctuary cities with the social services and available jobs to give these people a great chance at a new life is just an amazing opportunity. Why not frame it as that? Why do you guys have to drone on and on about how much you hate
illegals?
Funny, you want to pretend illegals are suddenly legal simply because Biden asks them to super duper pinky promise to appear at a court date later. What we see here is as plain as your deflection; democrats wanted to do exactly what you're doing here and play the race card every time anyone sought to secure the border. Democrats pronounced to the world that illegals were welcome in their sanctuary cities (why would legal immigrants need sanctuary?) Now we see you democrats losing your minds that brown people are showing up where they were invited and it's back to the race card. Oh right, YOU claim you're happy and that, despite their own protestations by the cities themselves, these sanctuary cities have a plan to serve these illegals, right? Nevermind what they're saying about not having space or resources, trust you on this, right? Hahaha, hey, we are glad at least one leftist likes this, because forcing democrats to reveal their hypocrisy in such a public fashion is greatness to the rest of us.


Thought conservatives wanted to apply the law as written. Characterize it as condescendingly as you want, when those people stepped on the bus they were legally in this country.


So the outcry about "transporting illegals" was just the same kind of political stunt that sending them to MV was?

I have little doubt that DeSantis is trying to score political points, but sending a handful of folks to one of America's most exclusive vacation spots also brings a very serious issue that has been basically ignored to closer to the top of the list.


Yes. Both sides are using this group to score political points.
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2,000,000 illegals into the United States in one year .

Almost four times the population of the state of Wyoming…..in one year .

Really think this surge of humanity from central and South America is going is going to stop on it's own ?

Why would it ?

Who is going to feed these increasing millions ….who is going to pay for their medical care ?

Really think any country can absorb the annual surplus work force of two continents indefinitely ?
Wangchung
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Booray said:

D. C. Bear said:

Booray said:

Wangchung said:

Porteroso said:

Canada2017 said:

Porteroso said:



I don't know about dropping them off at Kamela's front door, that's purely politics, but I love the idea that they are getting access to all this welcome and aid all across the US.
How many additional illegals should we welcome and provide aid ?

2 million

5 million

10 million

20 million


Unlimited ?
Once again, talking about illegals, and legal migrants, are 2 different conversations. I think no state will be bussing illegals up North, they'd get into some serious legal trouble, aiding illegals.

So these are legal migrants. We do not take in unlimited, we theoretically have a plan for these migrants who come to the US the right way, with the right paperwork, backgrounds (maybe) checked.

If you're aware of all this, I don't understand your point.

edit: You guys are howling like hyenas but assuming I'm right and these aren't illegals, you're making leftist points for the left. You see brown people and immediately jump to "deport the illegals." That's not a good look........

As I said, Abbott is doing these people a huge favor. Desantis I'm not sure, if he just keeps flying them to resorts, that doesn't seem like doing them a favor. But bussing to large sanctuary cities with the social services and available jobs to give these people a great chance at a new life is just an amazing opportunity. Why not frame it as that? Why do you guys have to drone on and on about how much you hate
illegals?
Funny, you want to pretend illegals are suddenly legal simply because Biden asks them to super duper pinky promise to appear at a court date later. What we see here is as plain as your deflection; democrats wanted to do exactly what you're doing here and play the race card every time anyone sought to secure the border. Democrats pronounced to the world that illegals were welcome in their sanctuary cities (why would legal immigrants need sanctuary?) Now we see you democrats losing your minds that brown people are showing up where they were invited and it's back to the race card. Oh right, YOU claim you're happy and that, despite their own protestations by the cities themselves, these sanctuary cities have a plan to serve these illegals, right? Nevermind what they're saying about not having space or resources, trust you on this, right? Hahaha, hey, we are glad at least one leftist likes this, because forcing democrats to reveal their hypocrisy in such a public fashion is greatness to the rest of us.


Thought conservatives wanted to apply the law as written. Characterize it as condescendingly as you want, when those people stepped on the bus they were legally in this country.


So the outcry about "transporting illegals" was just the same kind of political stunt that sending them to MV was?

I have little doubt that DeSantis is trying to score political points, but sending a handful of folks to one of America's most exclusive vacation spots also brings a very serious issue that has been basically ignored to closer to the top of the list.


Yes. Both sides are using this group to score political points.
But up until now only one side has felt the negatives of open borders. That had to change.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?
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Canada2017 said:

2,000,000 illegals into the United States in one year .

Almost four times the population of the state of Wyoming…..in one year .

Really think this surge of humanity from central and South America is going is going to stop on it's own ?

Why would it ?

Who is going to feed these increasing millions ….who is going to pay for their medical care ?

Really think any country can absorb the annual surplus work force of two continents indefinitely ?
Yeah, that is roughly like adding the population of Atlanta in a year not to mention we already added another Atlanta last year. This is not fair to the people that live in this country and pay taxes. Also, Venezuela is emptying their jails and sending their prisoners here. I wouldnt be surprised if every country south of us is doing the same thing.
 
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