Cobretti said:Eric Adams on NYC's migrant crisis:
— Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) October 7, 2022
"We have not asked for this. There was never any agreement to take on the job of supporting thousands of asylum seekers." pic.twitter.com/v1GTbjCPoe
"we never asked for this..."Cobretti said:
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A Venezuelan migrant who helped recruit asylum-seekers to take a flight from Texas to Martha's Vineyard last monthpaid for by Floridahas turned against his former boss and is cooperating with a Texas sheriff's office investigation. The man, identified only as Emmanuel, told the Miami Herald that he thought he was working for a charitable organization when he was told by Perla Huerta to convince a group of his countrymen to board the flight to Massachusetts with the promise of homes, cash and jobs. But when the migrants touched down, shocking the nation, Emmanuel's WhatsApp blew up with panicked messages from the migrants. He said he begged Huerta to answer the phone but she vanished, putting her Tampa home up for sale and scrubbing her online profiles. "They will do better than any other group [of migrants] and they have the attention of the whole country," she eventually texted back. "And I continue to be the worst woman in the world." Emmanuel now concedes he was duped by Huerta and he stopped talking to her around the same time he started cooperating with authorities.
HuMcK said:
This is definitely how normal people who aren't criminals act...
https://www.thedailybeast.com/migrant-who-helped-perla-recruit-for-ron-desantis-migrant-flight-to-marthas-vineyard-turns-on-her?via=twitter_page&s=09Quote:
A Venezuelan migrant who helped recruit asylum-seekers to take a flight from Texas to Martha's Vineyard last monthpaid for by Floridahas turned against his former boss and is cooperating with a Texas sheriff's office investigation. The man, identified only as Emmanuel, told the Miami Herald that he thought he was working for a charitable organization when he was told by Perla Huerta to convince a group of his countrymen to board the flight to Massachusetts with the promise of homes, cash and jobs. But when the migrants touched down, shocking the nation, Emmanuel's WhatsApp blew up with panicked messages from the migrants. He said he begged Huerta to answer the phone but she vanished, putting her Tampa home up for sale and scrubbing her online profiles. "They will do better than any other group [of migrants] and they have the attention of the whole country," she eventually texted back. "And I continue to be the worst woman in the world." Emmanuel now concedes he was duped by Huerta and he stopped talking to her around the same time he started cooperating with authorities.
HuMcK said:
This is definitely how normal people who aren't criminals act...
https://www.thedailybeast.com/migrant-who-helped-perla-recruit-for-ron-desantis-migrant-flight-to-marthas-vineyard-turns-on-her?via=twitter_page&s=09Quote:
A Venezuelan migrant who helped recruit asylum-seekers to take a flight from Texas to Martha's Vineyard last monthpaid for by Floridahas turned against his former boss and is cooperating with a Texas sheriff's office investigation. The man, identified only as Emmanuel, told the Miami Herald that he thought he was working for a charitable organization when he was told by Perla Huerta to convince a group of his countrymen to board the flight to Massachusetts with the promise of homes, cash and jobs. But when the migrants touched down, shocking the nation, Emmanuel's WhatsApp blew up with panicked messages from the migrants. He said he begged Huerta to answer the phone but she vanished, putting her Tampa home up for sale and scrubbing her online profiles. "They will do better than any other group [of migrants] and they have the attention of the whole country," she eventually texted back. "And I continue to be the worst woman in the world." Emmanuel now concedes he was duped by Huerta and he stopped talking to her around the same time he started cooperating with authorities.
Porteroso said:HuMcK said:
This is definitely how normal people who aren't criminals act...
https://www.thedailybeast.com/migrant-who-helped-perla-recruit-for-ron-desantis-migrant-flight-to-marthas-vineyard-turns-on-her?via=twitter_page&s=09Quote:
A Venezuelan migrant who helped recruit asylum-seekers to take a flight from Texas to Martha's Vineyard last monthpaid for by Floridahas turned against his former boss and is cooperating with a Texas sheriff's office investigation. The man, identified only as Emmanuel, told the Miami Herald that he thought he was working for a charitable organization when he was told by Perla Huerta to convince a group of his countrymen to board the flight to Massachusetts with the promise of homes, cash and jobs. But when the migrants touched down, shocking the nation, Emmanuel's WhatsApp blew up with panicked messages from the migrants. He said he begged Huerta to answer the phone but she vanished, putting her Tampa home up for sale and scrubbing her online profiles. "They will do better than any other group [of migrants] and they have the attention of the whole country," she eventually texted back. "And I continue to be the worst woman in the world." Emmanuel now concedes he was duped by Huerta and he stopped talking to her around the same time he started cooperating with authorities.
Doesn't it make sense he thought it was charity? Tens of thousands are reaping the benefits of being transported (with their consent, for free) to places with jobs and social services. There is little to no opportunity for them at the border.
Unless it was explicitly stated that this was a nonprofit charity, I fail to see anything wrong. Only people who don't like brown asylum seekers up north are racists.
Porteroso said:HuMcK said:
This is definitely how normal people who aren't criminals act...
https://www.thedailybeast.com/migrant-who-helped-perla-recruit-for-ron-desantis-migrant-flight-to-marthas-vineyard-turns-on-her?via=twitter_page&s=09Quote:
A Venezuelan migrant who helped recruit asylum-seekers to take a flight from Texas to Martha's Vineyard last monthpaid for by Floridahas turned against his former boss and is cooperating with a Texas sheriff's office investigation. The man, identified only as Emmanuel, told the Miami Herald that he thought he was working for a charitable organization when he was told by Perla Huerta to convince a group of his countrymen to board the flight to Massachusetts with the promise of homes, cash and jobs. But when the migrants touched down, shocking the nation, Emmanuel's WhatsApp blew up with panicked messages from the migrants. He said he begged Huerta to answer the phone but she vanished, putting her Tampa home up for sale and scrubbing her online profiles. "They will do better than any other group [of migrants] and they have the attention of the whole country," she eventually texted back. "And I continue to be the worst woman in the world." Emmanuel now concedes he was duped by Huerta and he stopped talking to her around the same time he started cooperating with authorities.
Doesn't it make sense he thought it was charity? Tens of thousands are reaping the benefits of being transported (with their consent, for free) to places with jobs and social services. There is little to no opportunity for them at the border.
Unless it was explicitly stated that this was a nonprofit charity, I fail to see anything wrong. Only people who don't like brown asylum seekers up north are racists.
DEBUNKED. The drug cartels are progressive and humanly compassionate compared to the evil ULTRAMAGATRONS that kidnapped them and forced them to be near progressive Karens.whiterock said:
Getting a free trip to Martha's Vineyard is the best thing that's happened to those migrants since they handed all their money over to the drug cartels for passage to America.
whiterock said:
Getting a free trip to Martha's Vineyard is the best thing that's happened to those migrants since they handed all their money over to the drug cartels for passage to America.
quash said:whiterock said:
Getting a free trip to Martha's Vineyard is the best thing that's happened to those migrants since they handed all their money over to the drug cartels for passage to America.
Wasn't so good for the ones that missed their asylum hearings thanks to Gov. Desantis and his duplicity.
He Hate Me said:quash said:whiterock said:
Getting a free trip to Martha's Vineyard is the best thing that's happened to those migrants since they handed all their money over to the drug cartels for passage to America.
Wasn't so good for the ones that missed their asylum hearings thanks to Gov. Desantis and his duplicity.
Ha ha! Asylum denied. Like they were going to show up anyway.
quash said:He Hate Me said:quash said:whiterock said:
Getting a free trip to Martha's Vineyard is the best thing that's happened to those migrants since they handed all their money over to the drug cartels for passage to America.
Wasn't so good for the ones that missed their asylum hearings thanks to Gov. Desantis and his duplicity.
Ha ha! Asylum denied. Like they were going to show up anyway.
They usually do. Only 6-11% fail to show and get deported in absentia.
Old linked article. The article's link to the DOJ is a dead end.quash said:He Hate Me said:quash said:whiterock said:
Getting a free trip to Martha's Vineyard is the best thing that's happened to those migrants since they handed all their money over to the drug cartels for passage to America.
Wasn't so good for the ones that missed their asylum hearings thanks to Gov. Desantis and his duplicity.
Ha ha! Asylum denied. Like they were going to show up anyway.
They usually do. Only 6-11% fail to show and get deported in absentia.
1) data in the article refutes the claim made in the post.EatMoreSalmon said:Old linked article. The article's link to the DOJ is a dead end.quash said:He Hate Me said:quash said:whiterock said:
Getting a free trip to Martha's Vineyard is the best thing that's happened to those migrants since they handed all their money over to the drug cartels for passage to America.
Wasn't so good for the ones that missed their asylum hearings thanks to Gov. Desantis and his duplicity.
Ha ha! Asylum denied. Like they were going to show up anyway.
They usually do. Only 6-11% fail to show and get deported in absentia.
The latest census data shows 1 in 6 people in England and Wales are first generation immigrants, with 40% arriving in the last decade. A brief reminder of what the Conservative party spent that period promising: pic.twitter.com/T3R5N7qp0v
— Sam Ashworth-Hayes (@SAshworthHayes) November 2, 2022
There has been more migrants that have moved to Britain in the last 25 years than the previous 2,000 years combined. Just let that sink in for a second.
— Sir Walter Raleigh 🏴 (@NxlAnglo) November 3, 2022
whiterock said:
Getting a free trip to Martha's Vineyard is the best thing that's happened to those migrants since they handed all their money over to the drug cartels for passage to America.
Porteroso said:whiterock said:
Getting a free trip to Martha's Vineyard is the best thing that's happened to those migrants since they handed all their money over to the drug cartels for passage to America.
You make it sound like a bad thing. For many of them, they left death and starvation, and are in the greatest country try on the planet now.
I'd give cartels money too if they'd take me from a shothole to a place where dreams come true.
Put Porteroso down for "human smuggling is just fine since it helps us exceed statutory immigration limits."Porteroso said:whiterock said:
Getting a free trip to Martha's Vineyard is the best thing that's happened to those migrants since they handed all their money over to the drug cartels for passage to America.
You make it sound like a bad thing. For many of them, they left death and starvation, and are in the greatest country try on the planet now.
I'd give cartels money too if they'd take me from a shothole to a place where dreams come true.
What country can't secure their borders?Porteroso said:whiterock said:
Getting a free trip to Martha's Vineyard is the best thing that's happened to those migrants since they handed all their money over to the drug cartels for passage to America.
You make it sound like a bad thing. For many of them, they left death and starvation, and are in the greatest country try on the planet now.
I'd give cartels money too if they'd take me from a shothole to a place where dreams come true.
Put Schumer down for "human smuggling is fine since it helps us grow our population."whiterock said:Put Porteroso down for "human smuggling is just fine since it helps us exceed statutory immigration limits."Porteroso said:whiterock said:
Getting a free trip to Martha's Vineyard is the best thing that's happened to those migrants since they handed all their money over to the drug cartels for passage to America.
You make it sound like a bad thing. For many of them, they left death and starvation, and are in the greatest country try on the planet now.
I'd give cartels money too if they'd take me from a shothole to a place where dreams come true.
The Venezuelans had been camping out on the river across from El Paso, TX, waiting to cross into the U.S. once Title 42 drops next month.
— Bill Melugin (@BillFOXLA) November 28, 2022
In October, DHS began a new policy of expelling Venezuelans via Title 42. The camp is now cleared. MX offered the migtants buses to shelters.
Breaking news. https://t.co/fZT3WC1sbX
— Ted Cruz (@tedcruz) November 28, 2022
Over 105,000 illegal crossings in the El Paso sector in just two months, including nearly 2,000 in last 24 hours alone. Up 257% over same time last year.
— Bill Melugin (@BillFOXLA) November 30, 2022
And this is with Title 42 still in place.
Buckle up for when it drops in 3 weeks. https://t.co/dPgRkHACYD
Chattanooga school board correctly identifies ESL migrant children as a burden on her school district which reduces resources given to other students.
— Imperator Philippus Arabus (@PhilippusArabus) December 4, 2022
Liberal media predictably outraged.https://t.co/392xbiQkTm
whiterock said:Put Porteroso down for "human smuggling is just fine since it helps us exceed statutory immigration limits."Porteroso said:whiterock said:
Getting a free trip to Martha's Vineyard is the best thing that's happened to those migrants since they handed all their money over to the drug cartels for passage to America.
You make it sound like a bad thing. For many of them, they left death and starvation, and are in the greatest country try on the planet now.
I'd give cartels money too if they'd take me from a shothole to a place where dreams come true.
I can hear it now: " Well, I do not think slavery is good, and in fact you can look that up, but personally, if our labor shortage is severe enough, we might have to dabble in it a little to we can fill our production quotas. After all, we do have limits on the horrors we will take, but until we reach that limit, we can solve a few problems, now, can't we."Porteroso said:whiterock said:Put Porteroso down for "human smuggling is just fine since it helps us exceed statutory immigration limits."Porteroso said:whiterock said:
Getting a free trip to Martha's Vineyard is the best thing that's happened to those migrants since they handed all their money over to the drug cartels for passage to America.
You make it sound like a bad thing. For many of them, they left death and starvation, and are in the greatest country try on the planet now.
I'd give cartels money too if they'd take me from a shothole to a place where dreams come true.
Dumb take. It's easy to legislate morality, but more difficult to live it. I do not think cartels smuggling humans is good, in fact, and you can look this up, it's bad. But personally, I might pay them to smuggle me and my family, if conditions were bad enough. We all have our limits on what horrors we will take.
In some ways one could argue it's worse because most of those trafficked paid their life savings to become slaves.whiterock said:I can hear it now: " Well, I do not think slavery is good, and in fact you can look that up, but personally, if our labor shortage is severe enough, we might have to dabble in it a little to we can fill our production quotas. After all, we do have limits on the horrors we will take, but until we reach that limit, we can solve a few problems, now, can't we."Porteroso said:whiterock said:Put Porteroso down for "human smuggling is just fine since it helps us exceed statutory immigration limits."Porteroso said:whiterock said:
Getting a free trip to Martha's Vineyard is the best thing that's happened to those migrants since they handed all their money over to the drug cartels for passage to America.
You make it sound like a bad thing. For many of them, they left death and starvation, and are in the greatest country try on the planet now.
I'd give cartels money too if they'd take me from a shothole to a place where dreams come true.
Dumb take. It's easy to legislate morality, but more difficult to live it. I do not think cartels smuggling humans is good, in fact, and you can look this up, it's bad. But personally, I might pay them to smuggle me and my family, if conditions were bad enough. We all have our limits on what horrors we will take.
Why should anyone have to hire the most violent criminal organizations on earth to immigrate to a country with a long and strong tradition of legal immigration? Why should we tolerate ANY human smuggling? We have a 17 year line of qualified immigrants waiting on quota space. People who DO qualify for US Citizenship and have been vetted as suitable for legal immigration, living on a green card, legally working, etc..... Why on earth would we not accelerate the pace of letting in those folks? Why not lift the 1m/yr cap? Make it 2m? Make it 3m? We do have a Congress who can change the statute to make that happen, and a POTUS likely to sign the necessary legislation. But nah.. That's too hard. Just let in whatever/whomever can pitch up to the border with enough money to pay the cartels. Simple. Why, voters don't even need to know it's happening. Shh......
Human smuggling is the most barbaric think to happen in North America since the slave trade.
It'd be one thing if it was happening a little bit around the margins.
But our ruling class is ignoring a million-man march as a way to evade statutory limits on legal immigration.
Hard no for me.
whiterock said:I can hear it now: " Well, I do not think slavery is good, and in fact you can look that up, but personally, if our labor shortage is severe enough, we might have to dabble in it a little to we can fill our production quotas. After all, we do have limits on the horrors we will take, but until we reach that limit, we can solve a few problems, now, can't we."Porteroso said:whiterock said:Put Porteroso down for "human smuggling is just fine since it helps us exceed statutory immigration limits."Porteroso said:whiterock said:
Getting a free trip to Martha's Vineyard is the best thing that's happened to those migrants since they handed all their money over to the drug cartels for passage to America.
You make it sound like a bad thing. For many of them, they left death and starvation, and are in the greatest country try on the planet now.
I'd give cartels money too if they'd take me from a shothole to a place where dreams come true.
Dumb take. It's easy to legislate morality, but more difficult to live it. I do not think cartels smuggling humans is good, in fact, and you can look this up, it's bad. But personally, I might pay them to smuggle me and my family, if conditions were bad enough. We all have our limits on what horrors we will take.
Why should anyone have to hire the most violent criminal organizations on earth to immigrate to a country with a long and strong tradition of legal immigration? Why should we tolerate ANY human smuggling? We have a 17 year line of qualified immigrants waiting on quota space. People who DO qualify for US Citizenship and have been vetted as suitable for legal immigration, living on a green card, legally working, etc..... Why on earth would we not accelerate the pace of letting in those folks? Why not lift the 1m/yr cap? Make it 2m? Make it 3m? We do have a Congress who can change the statute to make that happen, and a POTUS likely to sign the necessary legislation. But nah.. That's too hard. Just let in whatever/whomever can pitch up to the border with enough money to pay the cartels. Simple. Why, voters don't even need to know it's happening. Shh......
Human smuggling is the most barbaric think to happen in North America since the slave trade.
It'd be one thing if it was happening a little bit around the margins.
But our ruling class is ignoring a million-man march as a way to evade statutory limits on legal immigration.
Hard no for me.
If someone really wants to be an American citizen, a 5 year vetting system should be sufficient. It shouldn't be an automatic acceptance either. I haven't looked it up and am taking your word for it, but 17 years is a long time.Porteroso said:whiterock said:I can hear it now: " Well, I do not think slavery is good, and in fact you can look that up, but personally, if our labor shortage is severe enough, we might have to dabble in it a little to we can fill our production quotas. After all, we do have limits on the horrors we will take, but until we reach that limit, we can solve a few problems, now, can't we."Porteroso said:whiterock said:Put Porteroso down for "human smuggling is just fine since it helps us exceed statutory immigration limits."Porteroso said:whiterock said:
Getting a free trip to Martha's Vineyard is the best thing that's happened to those migrants since they handed all their money over to the drug cartels for passage to America.
You make it sound like a bad thing. For many of them, they left death and starvation, and are in the greatest country try on the planet now.
I'd give cartels money too if they'd take me from a shothole to a place where dreams come true.
Dumb take. It's easy to legislate morality, but more difficult to live it. I do not think cartels smuggling humans is good, in fact, and you can look this up, it's bad. But personally, I might pay them to smuggle me and my family, if conditions were bad enough. We all have our limits on what horrors we will take.
Why should anyone have to hire the most violent criminal organizations on earth to immigrate to a country with a long and strong tradition of legal immigration? Why should we tolerate ANY human smuggling? We have a 17 year line of qualified immigrants waiting on quota space. People who DO qualify for US Citizenship and have been vetted as suitable for legal immigration, living on a green card, legally working, etc..... Why on earth would we not accelerate the pace of letting in those folks? Why not lift the 1m/yr cap? Make it 2m? Make it 3m? We do have a Congress who can change the statute to make that happen, and a POTUS likely to sign the necessary legislation. But nah.. That's too hard. Just let in whatever/whomever can pitch up to the border with enough money to pay the cartels. Simple. Why, voters don't even need to know it's happening. Shh......
Human smuggling is the most barbaric think to happen in North America since the slave trade.
It'd be one thing if it was happening a little bit around the margins.
But our ruling class is ignoring a million-man march as a way to evade statutory limits on legal immigration.
Hard no for me.
There is a huge disconnect in your logic. You ask why anyone would want to be smuggled into the United States, when the quota to get in legally is only 17 years long?
