Jacques Strap said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Jacques Strap said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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robby44 said:

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JusHappy2BeHere said:

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7 straight with 2 BCS wasn't **** with this many bowls

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Football nirvana is what it was

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The sad thing from a football perspective is that the Bears were still on the rise. You can see what kind of special talent Stidham is and we were just starting to get some additional players on defense.

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We used to have an elite coach who could identify and develop talent and out-scheme folks. CMR may turn out to be a good coach but he is not elite. Elite does not go 1-11. Football nirvana and it was raining money too.

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That was then. Got to move on.

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Well you brought it up. Anyway it was more a comment on the drop in coaching talent to the new era we are in now. So I have moved on to the new reality but that doesn't mean you can't compare records and ability.

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Jacques Strap said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Jacques Strap said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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robby44 said:

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JusHappy2BeHere said:

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7 straight with 2 BCS wasn't **** with this many bowls

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Football nirvana is what it was

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The sad thing from a football perspective is that the Bears were still on the rise. You can see what kind of special talent Stidham is and we were just starting to get some additional players on defense.

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We used to have an elite coach who could identify and develop talent and out-scheme folks. CMR may turn out to be a good coach but he is not elite. Elite does not go 1-11. Football nirvana and it was raining money too.

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That was then. Got to move on.

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Well you brought it up. Anyway it was more a comment on the drop in coaching talent to the new era we are in now. So I have moved on to the new reality but that doesn't mean you can't compare records and ability.

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JusHappy2BeHere said:

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Jacques Strap said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Jacques Strap said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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robby44 said:

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JusHappy2BeHere said:

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7 straight with 2 BCS wasn't **** with this many bowls

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Football nirvana is what it was

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The sad thing from a football perspective is that the Bears were still on the rise. You can see what kind of special talent Stidham is and we were just starting to get some additional players on defense.

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We used to have an elite coach who could identify and develop talent and out-scheme folks. CMR may turn out to be a good coach but he is not elite. Elite does not go 1-11. Football nirvana and it was raining money too.

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That was then. Got to move on.

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Well you brought it up. Anyway it was more a comment on the drop in coaching talent to the new era we are in now. So I have moved on to the new reality but that doesn't mean you can't compare records and ability.

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I'm pretty sure he was making fun of those who constantly say CAB is gone, move on...usually in threads they started about Briles

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D. C. Bear said:

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JusHappy2BeHere said:

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Jacques Strap said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Jacques Strap said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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robby44 said:

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JusHappy2BeHere said:

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7 straight with 2 BCS wasn't **** with this many bowls

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Football nirvana is what it was

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The sad thing from a football perspective is that the Bears were still on the rise. You can see what kind of special talent Stidham is and we were just starting to get some additional players on defense.

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We used to have an elite coach who could identify and develop talent and out-scheme folks. CMR may turn out to be a good coach but he is not elite. Elite does not go 1-11. Football nirvana and it was raining money too.

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That was then. Got to move on.

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Well you brought it up. Anyway it was more a comment on the drop in coaching talent to the new era we are in now. So I have moved on to the new reality but that doesn't mean you can't compare records and ability.

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I'm pretty sure he was making fun of those who constantly say CAB is gone, move on...usually in threads they started about Briles

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Only half way doing that.
It will drive you crazy to think about what might have been.

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xiledinok said:

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JusHappy2BeHere said:

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xiledinok said:

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You guys are all about KB. I need to find some Christmas sales on knee pads.
Can we set up a forum for bummed out coaches and players? Get a funeral home to sponsor it.

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do you hate him more because he is good or because his dad hired him instead of bringing in some big name that had no clue about the Briles offense?

Your visceral reaction to nepotism is like nothing I've ever seen

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Wasn't qualified at the time and killed us with those lazy ass game plans against conference competition.
The TCU game plan was utter stupidity. Worst play calling I 've seen in my life.
Oh well, Briles could have been all time great in college. Now, his football only legacy is a poor man's Steve Spurrier.
Briles never had outside pressure to win. A big pressure job would have had outsiders tell him to hire the next Bob Stoops. Instead, we just ate El Chico. El Chico rolled with points per possesion.

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D. C. Bear said:

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JusHappy2BeHere said:

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Jacques Strap said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Jacques Strap said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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robby44 said:

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JusHappy2BeHere said:

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7 straight with 2 BCS wasn't **** with this many bowls

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Football nirvana is what it was

---

The sad thing from a football perspective is that the Bears were still on the rise. You can see what kind of special talent Stidham is and we were just starting to get some additional players on defense.

---

We used to have an elite coach who could identify and develop talent and out-scheme folks. CMR may turn out to be a good coach but he is not elite. Elite does not go 1-11. Football nirvana and it was raining money too.

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That was then. Got to move on.

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Well you brought it up. Anyway it was more a comment on the drop in coaching talent to the new era we are in now. So I have moved on to the new reality but that doesn't mean you can't compare records and ability.

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I'm pretty sure he was making fun of those who constantly say CAB is gone, move on...usually in threads they started about Briles

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Only half way doing that.
It will drive you crazy to think about what might have been.

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JusHappy2BeHere said:

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7 straight with 2 BCS wasn't **** with this many bowls

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D. C. Bear said:

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Jacques Strap said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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robby44 said:

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JusHappy2BeHere said:

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7 straight with 2 BCS wasn't **** with this many bowls

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Football nirvana is what it was

---

The sad thing from a football perspective is that the Bears were still on the rise. You can see what kind of special talent Stidham is and we were just starting to get some additional players on defense.

---

We used to have an elite coach who could identify and develop talent and out-scheme folks. CMR may turn out to be a good coach but he is not elite. Elite does not go 1-11. Football nirvana and it was raining money too.

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That was then. Got to move on.

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Forest Bueller said:

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JusHappy2BeHere said:

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7 straight with 2 BCS wasn't **** with this many bowls

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????????????

I thought it was pretty darn cool.

Maybe I'm missing the sarcasm.

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granite said:

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xiledinok said:

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80s, there are 40 some bowls with 80 plus teams playing in them. Participation awards and coaching bowl bonuses. I get it.

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kinda sad that we couldn't make it to one of those bowls, since they are so easy to get to these days.....oh, and like Robbie said any bowl games is better than no bowl game. I played in 2 during my 4 years and would have been 3 but we decided as a team to pass on the weedeater bowl (lol) in hope of receiving a peach bowl invitation which didn't come.

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Judge said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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robby44 said:

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JusHappy2BeHere said:

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7 straight with 2 BCS wasn't **** with this many bowls

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Football nirvana is what it was

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The sad thing from a football perspective is that the Bears were still on the rise. You can see what kind of special talent Stidham is and we were just starting to get some additional players on defense.

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Exactly! We were just getting started.

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Robert Wilson said:

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Judge said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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robby44 said:

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JusHappy2BeHere said:

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7 straight with 2 BCS wasn't **** with this many bowls

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Football nirvana is what it was

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The sad thing from a football perspective is that the Bears were still on the rise. You can see what kind of special talent Stidham is and we were just starting to get some additional players on defense.

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Exactly! We were just getting started.

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Yep. We were plugging in a level of talent we had not seen. Oh well.

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D. C. Bear said:

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granite said:

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xiledinok said:

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80s, there are 40 some bowls with 80 plus teams playing in them. Participation awards and coaching bowl bonuses. I get it.

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kinda sad that we couldn't make it to one of those bowls, since they are so easy to get to these days.....oh, and like Robbie said any bowl games is better than no bowl game. I played in 2 during my 4 years and would have been 3 but we decided as a team to pass on the weedeater bowl (lol) in hope of receiving a peach bowl invitation which didn't come.

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I seem to recall Baylor rejecting a bowl because the Bears were still in contention for the Cotton Bowl when they wanted an answer.

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Thee University said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Judge said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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robby44 said:

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JusHappy2BeHere said:

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7 straight with 2 BCS wasn't **** with this many bowls

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Football nirvana is what it was

---

The sad thing from a football perspective is that the Bears were still on the rise. You can see what kind of special talent Stidham is and we were just starting to get some additional players on defense.

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Exactly! We were just getting started.

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Yep. We were plugging in a level of talent we had not seen. Oh well.

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Time for another history lesson for those who STILL believe that Baylor Football just started in 2010 or 2011.

I know it hurts your ears and eyes but we have had even better talent levels in Waco before. The NFL is a pretty good indicator of talent levels.

There have been 28 players drafted over the past 10 years. This is 2008 through the 2017 drafts.

From 1975 through 1984 we had 36 players selected in the first 7 rounds even though many more were drafted after Round 7.

We have plugged into this level of talent and better in the past.

We could have been on the rise or we could have had another 2015 or even another 2012.

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granite said:

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xiledinok said:

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80s, there are 40 some bowls with 80 plus teams playing in them. Participation awards and coaching bowl bonuses. I get it.

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kinda sad that we couldn't make it to one of those bowls, since they are so easy to get to these days.....oh, and like Robbie said any bowl games is better than no bowl game. I played in 2 during my 4 years and would have been 3 but we decided as a team to pass on the weedeater bowl (lol) in hope of receiving a peach bowl invitation which didn't come.

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Robert Wilson said:

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Thee University said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Judge said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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robby44 said:

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JusHappy2BeHere said:

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7 straight with 2 BCS wasn't **** with this many bowls

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Football nirvana is what it was

---

The sad thing from a football perspective is that the Bears were still on the rise. You can see what kind of special talent Stidham is and we were just starting to get some additional players on defense.

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Exactly! We were just getting started.

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Yep. We were plugging in a level of talent we had not seen. Oh well.

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Time for another history lesson for those who STILL believe that Baylor Football just started in 2010 or 2011.

I know it hurts your ears and eyes but we have had even better talent levels in Waco before. The NFL is a pretty good indicator of talent levels.

There have been 28 players drafted over the past 10 years. This is 2008 through the 2017 drafts.

From 1975 through 1984 we had 36 players selected in the first 7 rounds even though many more were drafted after Round 7.

We have plugged into this level of talent and better in the past.

We could have been on the rise or we could have had another 2015 or even another 2012.

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Yes, we have had a lot of talent before. Did not mean to bruise your fragile ego.

Briles was for the first time stacking up top shelf talent. He built us up to Conference championships with lower level recruits, and we were about to leverage things up.

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REX said:

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Thee University said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Judge said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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robby44 said:

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JusHappy2BeHere said:

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7 straight with 2 BCS wasn't **** with this many bowls

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Football nirvana is what it was

---

The sad thing from a football perspective is that the Bears were still on the rise. You can see what kind of special talent Stidham is and we were just starting to get some additional players on defense.

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Exactly! We were just getting started.

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Yep. We were plugging in a level of talent we had not seen. Oh well.

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Time for another history lesson for those who STILL believe that Baylor Football just started in 2010 or 2011.

I know it hurts your ears and eyes but we have had even better talent levels in Waco before. The NFL is a pretty good indicator of talent levels.

There have been 28 players drafted over the past 10 years. This is 2008 through the 2017 drafts.

From 1975 through 1984 we had 36 players selected in the first 7 rounds even though many more were drafted after Round 7.

We have plugged into this level of talent and better in the past.

We could have been on the rise or we could have had another 2015 or even another 2012.

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Didn't know that. Must have won a lot of conference championships and big bowls in that era. I know Baylor football started before 2010 just didn't follow them.
Personally I think that winning COLLEGE games is more important than having kids drafted but that's just me.

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Private Pyle said:

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Thee University said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Judge said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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robby44 said:

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JusHappy2BeHere said:

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7 straight with 2 BCS wasn't **** with this many bowls

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Football nirvana is what it was

---

The sad thing from a football perspective is that the Bears were still on the rise. You can see what kind of special talent Stidham is and we were just starting to get some additional players on defense.

---

Exactly! We were just getting started.

---

Yep. We were plugging in a level of talent we had not seen. Oh well.

---

Time for another history lesson for those who STILL believe that Baylor Football just started in 2010 or 2011.

I know it hurts your ears and eyes but we have had even better talent levels in Waco before. The NFL is a pretty good indicator of talent levels.

There have been 28 players drafted over the past 10 years. This is 2008 through the 2017 drafts.

From 1975 through 1984 we had 36 players selected in the first 7 rounds even though many more were drafted after Round 7.

We have plugged into this level of talent and better in the past.

We could have been on the rise or we could have had another 2015 or even another 2012.

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Just proves how great a coach Art was and how mediocre the one's were before him with superior talent

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bobo said:

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xiledinok said:

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JusHappy2BeHere said:

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xiledinok said:

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You guys are all about KB. I need to find some Christmas sales on knee pads.
Can we set up a forum for bummed out coaches and players? Get a funeral home to sponsor it.

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do you hate him more because he is good or because his dad hired him instead of bringing in some big name that had no clue about the Briles offense?

Your visceral reaction to nepotism is like nothing I've ever seen

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Wasn't qualified at the time and killed us with those lazy ass game plans against conference competition.
The TCU game plan was utter stupidity. Worst play calling I 've seen in my life.
Oh well, Briles could have been all time great in college. Now, his football only legacy is a poor man's Steve Spurrier.
Briles never had outside pressure to win. A big pressure job would have had outsiders tell him to hire the next Bob Stoops. Instead, we just ate El Chico. El Chico rolled with points per possesion.

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Must not have watched a single game this year

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xiledinok said:

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bobo said:

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xiledinok said:

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JusHappy2BeHere said:

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xiledinok said:

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You guys are all about KB. I need to find some Christmas sales on knee pads.
Can we set up a forum for bummed out coaches and players? Get a funeral home to sponsor it.

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do you hate him more because he is good or because his dad hired him instead of bringing in some big name that had no clue about the Briles offense?

Your visceral reaction to nepotism is like nothing I've ever seen

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Wasn't qualified at the time and killed us with those lazy ass game plans against conference competition.
The TCU game plan was utter stupidity. Worst play calling I 've seen in my life.
Oh well, Briles could have been all time great in college. Now, his football only legacy is a poor man's Steve Spurrier.
Briles never had outside pressure to win. A big pressure job would have had outsiders tell him to hire the next Bob Stoops. Instead, we just ate El Chico. El Chico rolled with points per possesion.

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Must not have watched a single game this year

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In my life. I hadn't ever watched a college team try to throw the ball 30 plus yards down field drive after drive in a hurricane.
Horses couldn't run sprits in that weather.

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MilliVanilli said:

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Private Pyle said:

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Thee University said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Judge said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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robby44 said:

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JusHappy2BeHere said:

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7 straight with 2 BCS wasn't **** with this many bowls

---

Football nirvana is what it was

---

The sad thing from a football perspective is that the Bears were still on the rise. You can see what kind of special talent Stidham is and we were just starting to get some additional players on defense.

---

Exactly! We were just getting started.

---

Yep. We were plugging in a level of talent we had not seen. Oh well.

---

Time for another history lesson for those who STILL believe that Baylor Football just started in 2010 or 2011.

I know it hurts your ears and eyes but we have had even better talent levels in Waco before. The NFL is a pretty good indicator of talent levels.

There have been 28 players drafted over the past 10 years. This is 2008 through the 2017 drafts.

From 1975 through 1984 we had 36 players selected in the first 7 rounds even though many more were drafted after Round 7.

We have plugged into this level of talent and better in the past.

We could have been on the rise or we could have had another 2015 or even another 2012.

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Just proves how great a coach Art was and how mediocre the one's were before him with superior talent

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Briles was a good offensive coach, but he also stood on the shoulders of Guy Morriss for doing all the groundwork that allowed him to be the very first coach to have a properly funded and facilitated program in Baylor history.

Big 12 money didn't exist in the program until Morriss got the wheels going and Briles was the first benefactor.

What Grant Teaff did with zero money to his back was miraculous.




I agree with you regarding Morriss' unheralded role in our program's history. That said I dont think Morriss with all the resources we have now and that Briles had would have gotten the program as high as Briles or even close actually.

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RioRata said:

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xiledinok said:

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bobo said:

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xiledinok said:

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JusHappy2BeHere said:

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xiledinok said:

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You guys are all about KB. I need to find some Christmas sales on knee pads.
Can we set up a forum for bummed out coaches and players? Get a funeral home to sponsor it.

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do you hate him more because he is good or because his dad hired him instead of bringing in some big name that had no clue about the Briles offense?

Your visceral reaction to nepotism is like nothing I've ever seen

---

Wasn't qualified at the time and killed us with those lazy ass game plans against conference competition.
The TCU game plan was utter stupidity. Worst play calling I 've seen in my life.
Oh well, Briles could have been all time great in college. Now, his football only legacy is a poor man's Steve Spurrier.
Briles never had outside pressure to win. A big pressure job would have had outsiders tell him to hire the next Bob Stoops. Instead, we just ate El Chico. El Chico rolled with points per possesion.

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Must not have watched a single game this year

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In my life. I hadn't ever watched a college team try to throw the ball 30 plus yards down field drive after drive in a hurricane.
Horses couldn't run sprits in that weather.

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Don't forget the game in Ft Worth when KenDoll had Chris Johnson attempt to throw bowling balls 50 yds (over and over and...) during that driving rainstorm.

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xiledinok said:

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RioRata said:

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xiledinok said:

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bobo said:

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xiledinok said:

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JusHappy2BeHere said:

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xiledinok said:

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You guys are all about KB. I need to find some Christmas sales on knee pads.
Can we set up a forum for bummed out coaches and players? Get a funeral home to sponsor it.

---

do you hate him more because he is good or because his dad hired him instead of bringing in some big name that had no clue about the Briles offense?

Your visceral reaction to nepotism is like nothing I've ever seen

---

Wasn't qualified at the time and killed us with those lazy ass game plans against conference competition.
The TCU game plan was utter stupidity. Worst play calling I 've seen in my life.
Oh well, Briles could have been all time great in college. Now, his football only legacy is a poor man's Steve Spurrier.
Briles never had outside pressure to win. A big pressure job would have had outsiders tell him to hire the next Bob Stoops. Instead, we just ate El Chico. El Chico rolled with points per possesion.

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Must not have watched a single game this year

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In my life. I hadn't ever watched a college team try to throw the ball 30 plus yards down field drive after drive in a hurricane.
Horses couldn't run sprits in that weather.

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Don't forget the game in Ft Worth when KenDoll had Chris Johnson attempt to throw bowling balls 50 yds (over and over and...) during that driving rainstorm.

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That was the one. All they need to do was stick Williams in the game and run over those guys.

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ValpoCory said:

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Sorry if it's been mentioned on this thread, but where does Art Briles live now? Near Kendal and FAU? I haven't seen any media mentions of him since that whole CFL fiasco.

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RioRata said:

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ValpoCory said:

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Sorry if it's been mentioned on this thread, but where does Art Briles live now? Near Kendal and FAU? I haven't seen any media mentions of him since that whole CFL fiasco.

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Last I heard he was still living at Horseshoe Bay but had that property on the market.

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ValpoCory said:

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RioRata said:

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ValpoCory said:

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Sorry if it's been mentioned on this thread, but where does Art Briles live now? Near Kendal and FAU? I haven't seen any media mentions of him since that whole CFL fiasco.

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Last I heard he was still living at Horseshoe Bay but had that property on the market.

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Thanks.

http://esearch.llanocad.net/Property/View/56309

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BUGWBBear said:

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So has Bennett been sent packing at ASU after the coaching change? Or are we gonna hear from Thee's glory days for another 20 pages?

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