Sam Lowry said:Nope.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Vaccine makers don't have total immunity. Your personal feelings about death and religion are irrelevant to scientific questions. "We can all go to a better place" is a poor argument when we're supposed to be trying to save lives. Preaching is empty and of no use when needs aren't being met (see James 2).Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Says the guy who's afraid of a jab.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Or in your case, lives for the economy.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:That fine as long as you can hold your breath. Otherwise the air is a public good.ATL Bear said:From the point it enters and exits my body I would assume so.Sam Lowry said:Do you?ATL Bear said:Does government own the air we breathe?Sam Lowry said:Pregnancy isn't airborne. I'm sure you can imagine the demand for precautions if it were.ATL Bear said:Agree, and? This is about lowering the opportunity for death/harm caused by the actions of another, right? Isn't that your "prolife" argument for masks? Wearing a mask isn't healthcare any more than wearing a condom is.Sam Lowry said:ATL Bear said:I wouldn't support government mandated condom wearing to prevent abortion.Sam Lowry said:It is shocking how indifferent you "pro-lifers" have become. It's as if you have no faith at all.Mothra said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Mask up Sam. Board up your windows with plywood and make sure your Papa John's delivery guy has on a Haz-Mat suit when he delivers your pizza. If the Haz-Mat suit is white, you should reject the pizza delivery and make sure he or someone else comes back in a black Haz-Mat suit. I really hope your pizza does not get cold!Sam Lowry said:Evidently not.Rawhide said:Your average American is sick and tired of masks, mandates and lockdownsDoc Holliday said:
Lockdown coming back?BREAKING: The Biden administration indicates they are open to returning to lockdowns. pic.twitter.com/lcj66Fggkz
— (((Jason Rantz))) on KTTH Radio (@jasonrantz) July 29, 2021
It is shocking what a coward this guy's turned into. I didn't always agree with him, but could always count on him to give a thoughtful and reasoned conservative position.
On this issue, you couldn't distinguish him from the big govt. lefties who haven't seen a mask mandate or lockdown they didn't like. It's as if he has no faith at all.
The old saying remains true - people will trade freedom for security. That seems to be the case with poor Sam.
I'm not arguing against mask usage, just the governmental mandating of it. Hence the parallel.
Like I said, fear makes people trade freedom for security.
I think your cowardice has made you stupid. In case you didn't notice, those didn't work at all.
Never figured you for such a *****.
Not afraid. But having a son severely injured by a vaccine and with vaccine makers granted total immunity - it's more a principled position than anything.
I'm not a big pharma supporting sheep like you are. I'm also not afraid of death. I don't have to do any good work to know that as you do. I have eternal security because I believe the Bible.
This vaccine has been granted total immunity. Do your research.
You're clueless.
https://www.wusa9.com/mobile/article/news/verify/adverse-effects-side-effects-covid-19-can-vaccine-comapnies-be-sued-for-complications-from-symptoms-verify-fact-check/65-ae9305ac-1193-4b7a-a90f-eb8536f06058
D. C. Bear said:Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Vaccine makers don't have total immunity. Your personal feelings about death and religion are irrelevant to scientific questions. "We can all go to a better place" is a poor argument when we're supposed to be trying to save lives. Preaching is empty and of no use when needs aren't being met (see James 2).Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Says the guy who's afraid of a jab.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Or in your case, lives for the economy.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:That fine as long as you can hold your breath. Otherwise the air is a public good.ATL Bear said:From the point it enters and exits my body I would assume so.Sam Lowry said:Do you?ATL Bear said:Does government own the air we breathe?Sam Lowry said:Pregnancy isn't airborne. I'm sure you can imagine the demand for precautions if it were.ATL Bear said:Agree, and? This is about lowering the opportunity for death/harm caused by the actions of another, right? Isn't that your "prolife" argument for masks? Wearing a mask isn't healthcare any more than wearing a condom is.Sam Lowry said:ATL Bear said:I wouldn't support government mandated condom wearing to prevent abortion.Sam Lowry said:It is shocking how indifferent you "pro-lifers" have become. It's as if you have no faith at all.Mothra said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Mask up Sam. Board up your windows with plywood and make sure your Papa John's delivery guy has on a Haz-Mat suit when he delivers your pizza. If the Haz-Mat suit is white, you should reject the pizza delivery and make sure he or someone else comes back in a black Haz-Mat suit. I really hope your pizza does not get cold!Sam Lowry said:Evidently not.Rawhide said:Your average American is sick and tired of masks, mandates and lockdownsDoc Holliday said:
Lockdown coming back?BREAKING: The Biden administration indicates they are open to returning to lockdowns. pic.twitter.com/lcj66Fggkz
— (((Jason Rantz))) on KTTH Radio (@jasonrantz) July 29, 2021
It is shocking what a coward this guy's turned into. I didn't always agree with him, but could always count on him to give a thoughtful and reasoned conservative position.
On this issue, you couldn't distinguish him from the big govt. lefties who haven't seen a mask mandate or lockdown they didn't like. It's as if he has no faith at all.
The old saying remains true - people will trade freedom for security. That seems to be the case with poor Sam.
I'm not arguing against mask usage, just the governmental mandating of it. Hence the parallel.
Like I said, fear makes people trade freedom for security.
I think your cowardice has made you stupid. In case you didn't notice, those didn't work at all.
Never figured you for such a *****.
Not afraid. But having a son severely injured by a vaccine and with vaccine makers granted total immunity - it's more a principled position than anything.
I'm not a big pharma supporting sheep like you are. I'm also not afraid of death. I don't have to do any good work to know that as you do. I have eternal security because I believe the Bible.
This vaccine has been granted total immunity. Do your research.
You're clueless.
Not exactly.
You might consider doing your research a little better.
If the companies are doing what Florda has claimed, they don't have immunity.
You are in error. I suggest reading last year's HHS declaration and the relevant sections of the PREP Act.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Nope.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Vaccine makers don't have total immunity. Your personal feelings about death and religion are irrelevant to scientific questions. "We can all go to a better place" is a poor argument when we're supposed to be trying to save lives. Preaching is empty and of no use when needs aren't being met (see James 2).Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Says the guy who's afraid of a jab.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Or in your case, lives for the economy.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:That fine as long as you can hold your breath. Otherwise the air is a public good.ATL Bear said:From the point it enters and exits my body I would assume so.Sam Lowry said:Do you?ATL Bear said:Does government own the air we breathe?Sam Lowry said:Pregnancy isn't airborne. I'm sure you can imagine the demand for precautions if it were.ATL Bear said:Agree, and? This is about lowering the opportunity for death/harm caused by the actions of another, right? Isn't that your "prolife" argument for masks? Wearing a mask isn't healthcare any more than wearing a condom is.Sam Lowry said:ATL Bear said:I wouldn't support government mandated condom wearing to prevent abortion.Sam Lowry said:It is shocking how indifferent you "pro-lifers" have become. It's as if you have no faith at all.Mothra said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Mask up Sam. Board up your windows with plywood and make sure your Papa John's delivery guy has on a Haz-Mat suit when he delivers your pizza. If the Haz-Mat suit is white, you should reject the pizza delivery and make sure he or someone else comes back in a black Haz-Mat suit. I really hope your pizza does not get cold!Sam Lowry said:Evidently not.Rawhide said:Your average American is sick and tired of masks, mandates and lockdownsDoc Holliday said:
Lockdown coming back?BREAKING: The Biden administration indicates they are open to returning to lockdowns. pic.twitter.com/lcj66Fggkz
— (((Jason Rantz))) on KTTH Radio (@jasonrantz) July 29, 2021
It is shocking what a coward this guy's turned into. I didn't always agree with him, but could always count on him to give a thoughtful and reasoned conservative position.
On this issue, you couldn't distinguish him from the big govt. lefties who haven't seen a mask mandate or lockdown they didn't like. It's as if he has no faith at all.
The old saying remains true - people will trade freedom for security. That seems to be the case with poor Sam.
I'm not arguing against mask usage, just the governmental mandating of it. Hence the parallel.
Like I said, fear makes people trade freedom for security.
I think your cowardice has made you stupid. In case you didn't notice, those didn't work at all.
Never figured you for such a *****.
Not afraid. But having a son severely injured by a vaccine and with vaccine makers granted total immunity - it's more a principled position than anything.
I'm not a big pharma supporting sheep like you are. I'm also not afraid of death. I don't have to do any good work to know that as you do. I have eternal security because I believe the Bible.
This vaccine has been granted total immunity. Do your research.
You're clueless.
https://www.wusa9.com/mobile/article/news/verify/adverse-effects-side-effects-covid-19-can-vaccine-comapnies-be-sued-for-complications-from-symptoms-verify-fact-check/65-ae9305ac-1193-4b7a-a90f-eb8536f06058
You probably need to read that article again. It's misleading conclusion is not correct.
As of right now, vaccine makers have total immunity from lawsuit, and not just adverse side effects.
Sam Lowry said:You are in error. I suggest reading last year's HHS declaration and the relevant sections of the PREP Act.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Nope.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Vaccine makers don't have total immunity. Your personal feelings about death and religion are irrelevant to scientific questions. "We can all go to a better place" is a poor argument when we're supposed to be trying to save lives. Preaching is empty and of no use when needs aren't being met (see James 2).Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Says the guy who's afraid of a jab.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Or in your case, lives for the economy.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:That fine as long as you can hold your breath. Otherwise the air is a public good.ATL Bear said:From the point it enters and exits my body I would assume so.Sam Lowry said:Do you?ATL Bear said:Does government own the air we breathe?Sam Lowry said:Pregnancy isn't airborne. I'm sure you can imagine the demand for precautions if it were.ATL Bear said:Agree, and? This is about lowering the opportunity for death/harm caused by the actions of another, right? Isn't that your "prolife" argument for masks? Wearing a mask isn't healthcare any more than wearing a condom is.Sam Lowry said:ATL Bear said:I wouldn't support government mandated condom wearing to prevent abortion.Sam Lowry said:It is shocking how indifferent you "pro-lifers" have become. It's as if you have no faith at all.Mothra said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Mask up Sam. Board up your windows with plywood and make sure your Papa John's delivery guy has on a Haz-Mat suit when he delivers your pizza. If the Haz-Mat suit is white, you should reject the pizza delivery and make sure he or someone else comes back in a black Haz-Mat suit. I really hope your pizza does not get cold!Sam Lowry said:Evidently not.Rawhide said:Your average American is sick and tired of masks, mandates and lockdownsDoc Holliday said:
Lockdown coming back?BREAKING: The Biden administration indicates they are open to returning to lockdowns. pic.twitter.com/lcj66Fggkz
— (((Jason Rantz))) on KTTH Radio (@jasonrantz) July 29, 2021
It is shocking what a coward this guy's turned into. I didn't always agree with him, but could always count on him to give a thoughtful and reasoned conservative position.
On this issue, you couldn't distinguish him from the big govt. lefties who haven't seen a mask mandate or lockdown they didn't like. It's as if he has no faith at all.
The old saying remains true - people will trade freedom for security. That seems to be the case with poor Sam.
I'm not arguing against mask usage, just the governmental mandating of it. Hence the parallel.
Like I said, fear makes people trade freedom for security.
I think your cowardice has made you stupid. In case you didn't notice, those didn't work at all.
Never figured you for such a *****.
Not afraid. But having a son severely injured by a vaccine and with vaccine makers granted total immunity - it's more a principled position than anything.
I'm not a big pharma supporting sheep like you are. I'm also not afraid of death. I don't have to do any good work to know that as you do. I have eternal security because I believe the Bible.
This vaccine has been granted total immunity. Do your research.
You're clueless.
https://www.wusa9.com/mobile/article/news/verify/adverse-effects-side-effects-covid-19-can-vaccine-comapnies-be-sued-for-complications-from-symptoms-verify-fact-check/65-ae9305ac-1193-4b7a-a90f-eb8536f06058
You probably need to read that article again. It's misleading conclusion is not correct.
As of right now, vaccine makers have total immunity from lawsuit, and not just adverse side effects.
Any willful misconduct. It's all part of the same case, not a separate process.Florda_mike said:Sam Lowry said:You are in error. I suggest reading last year's HHS declaration and the relevant sections of the PREP Act.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Nope.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Vaccine makers don't have total immunity. Your personal feelings about death and religion are irrelevant to scientific questions. "We can all go to a better place" is a poor argument when we're supposed to be trying to save lives. Preaching is empty and of no use when needs aren't being met (see James 2).Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Says the guy who's afraid of a jab.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Or in your case, lives for the economy.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:That fine as long as you can hold your breath. Otherwise the air is a public good.ATL Bear said:From the point it enters and exits my body I would assume so.Sam Lowry said:Do you?ATL Bear said:Does government own the air we breathe?Sam Lowry said:Pregnancy isn't airborne. I'm sure you can imagine the demand for precautions if it were.ATL Bear said:Agree, and? This is about lowering the opportunity for death/harm caused by the actions of another, right? Isn't that your "prolife" argument for masks? Wearing a mask isn't healthcare any more than wearing a condom is.Sam Lowry said:ATL Bear said:I wouldn't support government mandated condom wearing to prevent abortion.Sam Lowry said:It is shocking how indifferent you "pro-lifers" have become. It's as if you have no faith at all.Mothra said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Mask up Sam. Board up your windows with plywood and make sure your Papa John's delivery guy has on a Haz-Mat suit when he delivers your pizza. If the Haz-Mat suit is white, you should reject the pizza delivery and make sure he or someone else comes back in a black Haz-Mat suit. I really hope your pizza does not get cold!Sam Lowry said:Evidently not.Rawhide said:Your average American is sick and tired of masks, mandates and lockdownsDoc Holliday said:
Lockdown coming back?BREAKING: The Biden administration indicates they are open to returning to lockdowns. pic.twitter.com/lcj66Fggkz
— (((Jason Rantz))) on KTTH Radio (@jasonrantz) July 29, 2021
It is shocking what a coward this guy's turned into. I didn't always agree with him, but could always count on him to give a thoughtful and reasoned conservative position.
On this issue, you couldn't distinguish him from the big govt. lefties who haven't seen a mask mandate or lockdown they didn't like. It's as if he has no faith at all.
The old saying remains true - people will trade freedom for security. That seems to be the case with poor Sam.
I'm not arguing against mask usage, just the governmental mandating of it. Hence the parallel.
Like I said, fear makes people trade freedom for security.
I think your cowardice has made you stupid. In case you didn't notice, those didn't work at all.
Never figured you for such a *****.
Not afraid. But having a son severely injured by a vaccine and with vaccine makers granted total immunity - it's more a principled position than anything.
I'm not a big pharma supporting sheep like you are. I'm also not afraid of death. I don't have to do any good work to know that as you do. I have eternal security because I believe the Bible.
This vaccine has been granted total immunity. Do your research.
You're clueless.
https://www.wusa9.com/mobile/article/news/verify/adverse-effects-side-effects-covid-19-can-vaccine-comapnies-be-sued-for-complications-from-symptoms-verify-fact-check/65-ae9305ac-1193-4b7a-a90f-eb8536f06058
You probably need to read that article again. It's misleading conclusion is not correct.
As of right now, vaccine makers have total immunity from lawsuit, and not just adverse side effects.
Is it that their immunity doesn't exist if they are committing fraud?
If that's the case, then they must be found guilty in a separate fraud case before anything against them moves forward, correct?
D. C. Bear said:Canada2017 said:D. C. Bear said:Canada2017 said:D. C. Bear said:Canada2017 said:Sam Lowry said:Says the guy who's afraid of a jab.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Or in your case, lives for the economy.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:That fine as long as you can hold your breath. Otherwise the air is a public good.ATL Bear said:From the point it enters and exits my body I would assume so.Sam Lowry said:Do you?ATL Bear said:Does government own the air we breathe?Sam Lowry said:Pregnancy isn't airborne. I'm sure you can imagine the demand for precautions if it were.ATL Bear said:Agree, and? This is about lowering the opportunity for death/harm caused by the actions of another, right? Isn't that your "prolife" argument for masks? Wearing a mask isn't healthcare any more than wearing a condom is.Sam Lowry said:ATL Bear said:I wouldn't support government mandated condom wearing to prevent abortion.Sam Lowry said:It is shocking how indifferent you "pro-lifers" have become. It's as if you have no faith at all.Mothra said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Mask up Sam. Board up your windows with plywood and make sure your Papa John's delivery guy has on a Haz-Mat suit when he delivers your pizza. If the Haz-Mat suit is white, you should reject the pizza delivery and make sure he or someone else comes back in a black Haz-Mat suit. I really hope your pizza does not get cold!Sam Lowry said:Evidently not.Rawhide said:Your average American is sick and tired of masks, mandates and lockdownsDoc Holliday said:
Lockdown coming back?BREAKING: The Biden administration indicates they are open to returning to lockdowns. pic.twitter.com/lcj66Fggkz
— (((Jason Rantz))) on KTTH Radio (@jasonrantz) July 29, 2021
It is shocking what a coward this guy's turned into. I didn't always agree with him, but could always count on him to give a thoughtful and reasoned conservative position.
On this issue, you couldn't distinguish him from the big govt. lefties who haven't seen a mask mandate or lockdown they didn't like. It's as if he has no faith at all.
The old saying remains true - people will trade freedom for security. That seems to be the case with poor Sam.
I'm not arguing against mask usage, just the governmental mandating of it. Hence the parallel.
Like I said, fear makes people trade freedom for security.
I think your cowardice has made you stupid. In case you didn't notice, those didn't work at all.
Never figured you for such a *****.
Unfortunately our warped media isn't trusted by the vast majority of Americans .
With all the misinformation out there from BOTH sides of the problem it is not surprising that people are angry and confused.
And whose fault is that?
The consumer.
Us.
If people stopped watching media corporate profits would evaporate and changes would occur .
Who changed, the consumer or the product?
The consumer changed first .
Corporations merely adjusted their content to appeal to an ever more debauched and ignorant audience .
I don't think so. I think the media changed because of the Internet. Audience has always been debauched and ignorant.
Canada2017 said:D. C. Bear said:Canada2017 said:D. C. Bear said:Canada2017 said:D. C. Bear said:Canada2017 said:Sam Lowry said:Says the guy who's afraid of a jab.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Or in your case, lives for the economy.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:That fine as long as you can hold your breath. Otherwise the air is a public good.ATL Bear said:From the point it enters and exits my body I would assume so.Sam Lowry said:Do you?ATL Bear said:Does government own the air we breathe?Sam Lowry said:Pregnancy isn't airborne. I'm sure you can imagine the demand for precautions if it were.ATL Bear said:Agree, and? This is about lowering the opportunity for death/harm caused by the actions of another, right? Isn't that your "prolife" argument for masks? Wearing a mask isn't healthcare any more than wearing a condom is.Sam Lowry said:ATL Bear said:I wouldn't support government mandated condom wearing to prevent abortion.Sam Lowry said:It is shocking how indifferent you "pro-lifers" have become. It's as if you have no faith at all.Mothra said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Mask up Sam. Board up your windows with plywood and make sure your Papa John's delivery guy has on a Haz-Mat suit when he delivers your pizza. If the Haz-Mat suit is white, you should reject the pizza delivery and make sure he or someone else comes back in a black Haz-Mat suit. I really hope your pizza does not get cold!Sam Lowry said:Evidently not.Rawhide said:Your average American is sick and tired of masks, mandates and lockdownsDoc Holliday said:
Lockdown coming back?BREAKING: The Biden administration indicates they are open to returning to lockdowns. pic.twitter.com/lcj66Fggkz
— (((Jason Rantz))) on KTTH Radio (@jasonrantz) July 29, 2021
It is shocking what a coward this guy's turned into. I didn't always agree with him, but could always count on him to give a thoughtful and reasoned conservative position.
On this issue, you couldn't distinguish him from the big govt. lefties who haven't seen a mask mandate or lockdown they didn't like. It's as if he has no faith at all.
The old saying remains true - people will trade freedom for security. That seems to be the case with poor Sam.
I'm not arguing against mask usage, just the governmental mandating of it. Hence the parallel.
Like I said, fear makes people trade freedom for security.
I think your cowardice has made you stupid. In case you didn't notice, those didn't work at all.
Never figured you for such a *****.
Unfortunately our warped media isn't trusted by the vast majority of Americans .
With all the misinformation out there from BOTH sides of the problem it is not surprising that people are angry and confused.
And whose fault is that?
The consumer.
Us.
If people stopped watching media corporate profits would evaporate and changes would occur .
Who changed, the consumer or the product?
The consumer changed first .
Corporations merely adjusted their content to appeal to an ever more debauched and ignorant audience .
I don't think so. I think the media changed because of the Internet. Audience has always been debauched and ignorant.
I could be mistaken..but believe the average American was better read 50 years ago.
Sam Lowry said:Any willful misconduct. It's all part of the same case, not a separate process.Florda_mike said:Sam Lowry said:You are in error. I suggest reading last year's HHS declaration and the relevant sections of the PREP Act.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Nope.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Vaccine makers don't have total immunity. Your personal feelings about death and religion are irrelevant to scientific questions. "We can all go to a better place" is a poor argument when we're supposed to be trying to save lives. Preaching is empty and of no use when needs aren't being met (see James 2).Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Says the guy who's afraid of a jab.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Or in your case, lives for the economy.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:That fine as long as you can hold your breath. Otherwise the air is a public good.ATL Bear said:From the point it enters and exits my body I would assume so.Sam Lowry said:Do you?ATL Bear said:Does government own the air we breathe?Sam Lowry said:Pregnancy isn't airborne. I'm sure you can imagine the demand for precautions if it were.ATL Bear said:Agree, and? This is about lowering the opportunity for death/harm caused by the actions of another, right? Isn't that your "prolife" argument for masks? Wearing a mask isn't healthcare any more than wearing a condom is.Sam Lowry said:ATL Bear said:I wouldn't support government mandated condom wearing to prevent abortion.Sam Lowry said:It is shocking how indifferent you "pro-lifers" have become. It's as if you have no faith at all.Mothra said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Mask up Sam. Board up your windows with plywood and make sure your Papa John's delivery guy has on a Haz-Mat suit when he delivers your pizza. If the Haz-Mat suit is white, you should reject the pizza delivery and make sure he or someone else comes back in a black Haz-Mat suit. I really hope your pizza does not get cold!Sam Lowry said:Evidently not.Rawhide said:Your average American is sick and tired of masks, mandates and lockdownsDoc Holliday said:
Lockdown coming back?BREAKING: The Biden administration indicates they are open to returning to lockdowns. pic.twitter.com/lcj66Fggkz
— (((Jason Rantz))) on KTTH Radio (@jasonrantz) July 29, 2021
It is shocking what a coward this guy's turned into. I didn't always agree with him, but could always count on him to give a thoughtful and reasoned conservative position.
On this issue, you couldn't distinguish him from the big govt. lefties who haven't seen a mask mandate or lockdown they didn't like. It's as if he has no faith at all.
The old saying remains true - people will trade freedom for security. That seems to be the case with poor Sam.
I'm not arguing against mask usage, just the governmental mandating of it. Hence the parallel.
Like I said, fear makes people trade freedom for security.
I think your cowardice has made you stupid. In case you didn't notice, those didn't work at all.
Never figured you for such a *****.
Not afraid. But having a son severely injured by a vaccine and with vaccine makers granted total immunity - it's more a principled position than anything.
I'm not a big pharma supporting sheep like you are. I'm also not afraid of death. I don't have to do any good work to know that as you do. I have eternal security because I believe the Bible.
This vaccine has been granted total immunity. Do your research.
You're clueless.
https://www.wusa9.com/mobile/article/news/verify/adverse-effects-side-effects-covid-19-can-vaccine-comapnies-be-sued-for-complications-from-symptoms-verify-fact-check/65-ae9305ac-1193-4b7a-a90f-eb8536f06058
You probably need to read that article again. It's misleading conclusion is not correct.
As of right now, vaccine makers have total immunity from lawsuit, and not just adverse side effects.
Is it that their immunity doesn't exist if they are committing fraud?
If that's the case, then they must be found guilty in a separate fraud case before anything against them moves forward, correct?
Carlos Cruz said:Canada2017 said:D. C. Bear said:Canada2017 said:D. C. Bear said:Canada2017 said:D. C. Bear said:Canada2017 said:Sam Lowry said:Says the guy who's afraid of a jab.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Or in your case, lives for the economy.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:That fine as long as you can hold your breath. Otherwise the air is a public good.ATL Bear said:From the point it enters and exits my body I would assume so.Sam Lowry said:Do you?ATL Bear said:Does government own the air we breathe?Sam Lowry said:Pregnancy isn't airborne. I'm sure you can imagine the demand for precautions if it were.ATL Bear said:Agree, and? This is about lowering the opportunity for death/harm caused by the actions of another, right? Isn't that your "prolife" argument for masks? Wearing a mask isn't healthcare any more than wearing a condom is.Sam Lowry said:ATL Bear said:I wouldn't support government mandated condom wearing to prevent abortion.Sam Lowry said:It is shocking how indifferent you "pro-lifers" have become. It's as if you have no faith at all.Mothra said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Mask up Sam. Board up your windows with plywood and make sure your Papa John's delivery guy has on a Haz-Mat suit when he delivers your pizza. If the Haz-Mat suit is white, you should reject the pizza delivery and make sure he or someone else comes back in a black Haz-Mat suit. I really hope your pizza does not get cold!Sam Lowry said:Evidently not.Rawhide said:Your average American is sick and tired of masks, mandates and lockdownsDoc Holliday said:
Lockdown coming back?BREAKING: The Biden administration indicates they are open to returning to lockdowns. pic.twitter.com/lcj66Fggkz
— (((Jason Rantz))) on KTTH Radio (@jasonrantz) July 29, 2021
It is shocking what a coward this guy's turned into. I didn't always agree with him, but could always count on him to give a thoughtful and reasoned conservative position.
On this issue, you couldn't distinguish him from the big govt. lefties who haven't seen a mask mandate or lockdown they didn't like. It's as if he has no faith at all.
The old saying remains true - people will trade freedom for security. That seems to be the case with poor Sam.
I'm not arguing against mask usage, just the governmental mandating of it. Hence the parallel.
Like I said, fear makes people trade freedom for security.
I think your cowardice has made you stupid. In case you didn't notice, those didn't work at all.
Never figured you for such a *****.
Unfortunately our warped media isn't trusted by the vast majority of Americans .
With all the misinformation out there from BOTH sides of the problem it is not surprising that people are angry and confused.
And whose fault is that?
The consumer.
Us.
If people stopped watching media corporate profits would evaporate and changes would occur .
Who changed, the consumer or the product?
The consumer changed first .
Corporations merely adjusted their content to appeal to an ever more debauched and ignorant audience .
I don't think so. I think the media changed because of the Internet. Audience has always been debauched and ignorant.
I could be mistaken..but believe the average American was better read 50 years ago.
Listen to Mike Wallace interview Rod Serling. Listen to "Man on the Street" interviews from 60 years ago. People were more intelligent and articulate than today. It plays out in our contemporary entertainment as well.
Canada2017 said:D. C. Bear said:Canada2017 said:D. C. Bear said:Canada2017 said:D. C. Bear said:Canada2017 said:Sam Lowry said:Says the guy who's afraid of a jab.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Or in your case, lives for the economy.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:That fine as long as you can hold your breath. Otherwise the air is a public good.ATL Bear said:From the point it enters and exits my body I would assume so.Sam Lowry said:Do you?ATL Bear said:Does government own the air we breathe?Sam Lowry said:Pregnancy isn't airborne. I'm sure you can imagine the demand for precautions if it were.ATL Bear said:Agree, and? This is about lowering the opportunity for death/harm caused by the actions of another, right? Isn't that your "prolife" argument for masks? Wearing a mask isn't healthcare any more than wearing a condom is.Sam Lowry said:ATL Bear said:I wouldn't support government mandated condom wearing to prevent abortion.Sam Lowry said:It is shocking how indifferent you "pro-lifers" have become. It's as if you have no faith at all.Mothra said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Mask up Sam. Board up your windows with plywood and make sure your Papa John's delivery guy has on a Haz-Mat suit when he delivers your pizza. If the Haz-Mat suit is white, you should reject the pizza delivery and make sure he or someone else comes back in a black Haz-Mat suit. I really hope your pizza does not get cold!Sam Lowry said:Evidently not.Rawhide said:Your average American is sick and tired of masks, mandates and lockdownsDoc Holliday said:
Lockdown coming back?BREAKING: The Biden administration indicates they are open to returning to lockdowns. pic.twitter.com/lcj66Fggkz
— (((Jason Rantz))) on KTTH Radio (@jasonrantz) July 29, 2021
It is shocking what a coward this guy's turned into. I didn't always agree with him, but could always count on him to give a thoughtful and reasoned conservative position.
On this issue, you couldn't distinguish him from the big govt. lefties who haven't seen a mask mandate or lockdown they didn't like. It's as if he has no faith at all.
The old saying remains true - people will trade freedom for security. That seems to be the case with poor Sam.
I'm not arguing against mask usage, just the governmental mandating of it. Hence the parallel.
Like I said, fear makes people trade freedom for security.
I think your cowardice has made you stupid. In case you didn't notice, those didn't work at all.
Never figured you for such a *****.
Unfortunately our warped media isn't trusted by the vast majority of Americans .
With all the misinformation out there from BOTH sides of the problem it is not surprising that people are angry and confused.
And whose fault is that?
The consumer.
Us.
If people stopped watching media corporate profits would evaporate and changes would occur .
Who changed, the consumer or the product?
The consumer changed first .
Corporations merely adjusted their content to appeal to an ever more debauched and ignorant audience .
I don't think so. I think the media changed because of the Internet. Audience has always been debauched and ignorant.
I could be mistaken..but believe the average American was better read 50 years ago.
Certainly about what America is meant to be. Warts and all from those days, a lot of people believed we could be what our founders hoped.Canada2017 said:D. C. Bear said:Canada2017 said:D. C. Bear said:Canada2017 said:D. C. Bear said:Canada2017 said:Sam Lowry said:Says the guy who's afraid of a jab.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Or in your case, lives for the economy.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:That fine as long as you can hold your breath. Otherwise the air is a public good.ATL Bear said:From the point it enters and exits my body I would assume so.Sam Lowry said:Do you?ATL Bear said:Does government own the air we breathe?Sam Lowry said:Pregnancy isn't airborne. I'm sure you can imagine the demand for precautions if it were.ATL Bear said:Agree, and? This is about lowering the opportunity for death/harm caused by the actions of another, right? Isn't that your "prolife" argument for masks? Wearing a mask isn't healthcare any more than wearing a condom is.Sam Lowry said:ATL Bear said:I wouldn't support government mandated condom wearing to prevent abortion.Sam Lowry said:It is shocking how indifferent you "pro-lifers" have become. It's as if you have no faith at all.Mothra said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Mask up Sam. Board up your windows with plywood and make sure your Papa John's delivery guy has on a Haz-Mat suit when he delivers your pizza. If the Haz-Mat suit is white, you should reject the pizza delivery and make sure he or someone else comes back in a black Haz-Mat suit. I really hope your pizza does not get cold!Sam Lowry said:Evidently not.Rawhide said:Your average American is sick and tired of masks, mandates and lockdownsDoc Holliday said:
Lockdown coming back?BREAKING: The Biden administration indicates they are open to returning to lockdowns. pic.twitter.com/lcj66Fggkz
— (((Jason Rantz))) on KTTH Radio (@jasonrantz) July 29, 2021
It is shocking what a coward this guy's turned into. I didn't always agree with him, but could always count on him to give a thoughtful and reasoned conservative position.
On this issue, you couldn't distinguish him from the big govt. lefties who haven't seen a mask mandate or lockdown they didn't like. It's as if he has no faith at all.
The old saying remains true - people will trade freedom for security. That seems to be the case with poor Sam.
I'm not arguing against mask usage, just the governmental mandating of it. Hence the parallel.
Like I said, fear makes people trade freedom for security.
I think your cowardice has made you stupid. In case you didn't notice, those didn't work at all.
Never figured you for such a *****.
Unfortunately our warped media isn't trusted by the vast majority of Americans .
With all the misinformation out there from BOTH sides of the problem it is not surprising that people are angry and confused.
And whose fault is that?
The consumer.
Us.
If people stopped watching media corporate profits would evaporate and changes would occur .
Who changed, the consumer or the product?
The consumer changed first .
Corporations merely adjusted their content to appeal to an ever more debauched and ignorant audience .
I don't think so. I think the media changed because of the Internet. Audience has always been debauched and ignorant.
I could be mistaken..but believe the average American was better read 50 years ago.
Oldbear83 said:Certainly about what America is meant to be. Warts and all from those days, a lot of people believed we could be what our founders hoped.Canada2017 said:D. C. Bear said:Canada2017 said:D. C. Bear said:Canada2017 said:D. C. Bear said:Canada2017 said:Sam Lowry said:Says the guy who's afraid of a jab.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Or in your case, lives for the economy.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:That fine as long as you can hold your breath. Otherwise the air is a public good.ATL Bear said:From the point it enters and exits my body I would assume so.Sam Lowry said:Do you?ATL Bear said:Does government own the air we breathe?Sam Lowry said:Pregnancy isn't airborne. I'm sure you can imagine the demand for precautions if it were.ATL Bear said:Agree, and? This is about lowering the opportunity for death/harm caused by the actions of another, right? Isn't that your "prolife" argument for masks? Wearing a mask isn't healthcare any more than wearing a condom is.Sam Lowry said:ATL Bear said:I wouldn't support government mandated condom wearing to prevent abortion.Sam Lowry said:It is shocking how indifferent you "pro-lifers" have become. It's as if you have no faith at all.Mothra said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Mask up Sam. Board up your windows with plywood and make sure your Papa John's delivery guy has on a Haz-Mat suit when he delivers your pizza. If the Haz-Mat suit is white, you should reject the pizza delivery and make sure he or someone else comes back in a black Haz-Mat suit. I really hope your pizza does not get cold!Sam Lowry said:Evidently not.Rawhide said:Your average American is sick and tired of masks, mandates and lockdownsDoc Holliday said:
Lockdown coming back?BREAKING: The Biden administration indicates they are open to returning to lockdowns. pic.twitter.com/lcj66Fggkz
— (((Jason Rantz))) on KTTH Radio (@jasonrantz) July 29, 2021
It is shocking what a coward this guy's turned into. I didn't always agree with him, but could always count on him to give a thoughtful and reasoned conservative position.
On this issue, you couldn't distinguish him from the big govt. lefties who haven't seen a mask mandate or lockdown they didn't like. It's as if he has no faith at all.
The old saying remains true - people will trade freedom for security. That seems to be the case with poor Sam.
I'm not arguing against mask usage, just the governmental mandating of it. Hence the parallel.
Like I said, fear makes people trade freedom for security.
I think your cowardice has made you stupid. In case you didn't notice, those didn't work at all.
Never figured you for such a *****.
Unfortunately our warped media isn't trusted by the vast majority of Americans .
With all the misinformation out there from BOTH sides of the problem it is not surprising that people are angry and confused.
And whose fault is that?
The consumer.
Us.
If people stopped watching media corporate profits would evaporate and changes would occur .
Who changed, the consumer or the product?
The consumer changed first .
Corporations merely adjusted their content to appeal to an ever more debauched and ignorant audience .
I don't think so. I think the media changed because of the Internet. Audience has always been debauched and ignorant.
I could be mistaken..but believe the average American was better read 50 years ago.
the debauched and ignorant are rarely the worst part of society. They can be entertaining from time to time and have the added benefit of being less likely to get caught up in progressive endeavors to control everyone else's life with everyone else's money.D. C. said:Quote:Quote:Quote:Quote:Quote:Quote:
Unfortunately our warped media isn't trusted by the vast majority of Americans . With all the misinformation out there from BOTH sides of the problem it is not surprising that people are angry and confused.
And whose fault is that?
The consumer.
Us.
If people stopped watching media corporate profits would evaporate and changes would occur .
Who changed, the consumer or the product?
The consumer changed first .
Corporations merely adjusted their content to appeal to an ever more debauched and ignorant audience .
I don't think so. I think the media changed because of the Internet. Audience has always been debauched and ignorant.
I could be mistaken..but believe the average American was better read 50 years ago.
Probably better read, but still debauched and ignorant.
Sam Lowry said:You are in error. I suggest reading last year's HHS declaration and the relevant sections of the PREP Act.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Nope.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Vaccine makers don't have total immunity. Your personal feelings about death and religion are irrelevant to scientific questions. "We can all go to a better place" is a poor argument when we're supposed to be trying to save lives. Preaching is empty and of no use when needs aren't being met (see James 2).Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Says the guy who's afraid of a jab.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Or in your case, lives for the economy.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:That fine as long as you can hold your breath. Otherwise the air is a public good.ATL Bear said:From the point it enters and exits my body I would assume so.Sam Lowry said:Do you?ATL Bear said:Does government own the air we breathe?Sam Lowry said:Pregnancy isn't airborne. I'm sure you can imagine the demand for precautions if it were.ATL Bear said:Agree, and? This is about lowering the opportunity for death/harm caused by the actions of another, right? Isn't that your "prolife" argument for masks? Wearing a mask isn't healthcare any more than wearing a condom is.Sam Lowry said:ATL Bear said:I wouldn't support government mandated condom wearing to prevent abortion.Sam Lowry said:It is shocking how indifferent you "pro-lifers" have become. It's as if you have no faith at all.Mothra said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Mask up Sam. Board up your windows with plywood and make sure your Papa John's delivery guy has on a Haz-Mat suit when he delivers your pizza. If the Haz-Mat suit is white, you should reject the pizza delivery and make sure he or someone else comes back in a black Haz-Mat suit. I really hope your pizza does not get cold!Sam Lowry said:Evidently not.Rawhide said:Your average American is sick and tired of masks, mandates and lockdownsDoc Holliday said:
Lockdown coming back?BREAKING: The Biden administration indicates they are open to returning to lockdowns. pic.twitter.com/lcj66Fggkz
— (((Jason Rantz))) on KTTH Radio (@jasonrantz) July 29, 2021
It is shocking what a coward this guy's turned into. I didn't always agree with him, but could always count on him to give a thoughtful and reasoned conservative position.
On this issue, you couldn't distinguish him from the big govt. lefties who haven't seen a mask mandate or lockdown they didn't like. It's as if he has no faith at all.
The old saying remains true - people will trade freedom for security. That seems to be the case with poor Sam.
I'm not arguing against mask usage, just the governmental mandating of it. Hence the parallel.
Like I said, fear makes people trade freedom for security.
I think your cowardice has made you stupid. In case you didn't notice, those didn't work at all.
Never figured you for such a *****.
Not afraid. But having a son severely injured by a vaccine and with vaccine makers granted total immunity - it's more a principled position than anything.
I'm not a big pharma supporting sheep like you are. I'm also not afraid of death. I don't have to do any good work to know that as you do. I have eternal security because I believe the Bible.
This vaccine has been granted total immunity. Do your research.
You're clueless.
https://www.wusa9.com/mobile/article/news/verify/adverse-effects-side-effects-covid-19-can-vaccine-comapnies-be-sued-for-complications-from-symptoms-verify-fact-check/65-ae9305ac-1193-4b7a-a90f-eb8536f06058
You probably need to read that article again. It's misleading conclusion is not correct.
As of right now, vaccine makers have total immunity from lawsuit, and not just adverse side effects.
Julian Reichelt, the editor-in-chief of @BILD - one of the largest newspapers in Germany, apologized to the children of Germany for the COVID-19 coverage in his newspaper that made them “victims of neglect, isolation and loneliness.”
— Amy Tarkanian (@MrsT106) August 2, 2021
Read the subtitles. pic.twitter.com/hn0B0u5H3E
Florda_mike said:Sam Lowry said:You are in error. I suggest reading last year's HHS declaration and the relevant sections of the PREP Act.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Nope.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Vaccine makers don't have total immunity. Your personal feelings about death and religion are irrelevant to scientific questions. "We can all go to a better place" is a poor argument when we're supposed to be trying to save lives. Preaching is empty and of no use when needs aren't being met (see James 2).Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Says the guy who's afraid of a jab.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Or in your case, lives for the economy.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:That fine as long as you can hold your breath. Otherwise the air is a public good.ATL Bear said:From the point it enters and exits my body I would assume so.Sam Lowry said:Do you?ATL Bear said:Does government own the air we breathe?Sam Lowry said:Pregnancy isn't airborne. I'm sure you can imagine the demand for precautions if it were.ATL Bear said:Agree, and? This is about lowering the opportunity for death/harm caused by the actions of another, right? Isn't that your "prolife" argument for masks? Wearing a mask isn't healthcare any more than wearing a condom is.Sam Lowry said:ATL Bear said:I wouldn't support government mandated condom wearing to prevent abortion.Sam Lowry said:It is shocking how indifferent you "pro-lifers" have become. It's as if you have no faith at all.Mothra said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Mask up Sam. Board up your windows with plywood and make sure your Papa John's delivery guy has on a Haz-Mat suit when he delivers your pizza. If the Haz-Mat suit is white, you should reject the pizza delivery and make sure he or someone else comes back in a black Haz-Mat suit. I really hope your pizza does not get cold!Sam Lowry said:Evidently not.Rawhide said:Your average American is sick and tired of masks, mandates and lockdownsDoc Holliday said:
Lockdown coming back?BREAKING: The Biden administration indicates they are open to returning to lockdowns. pic.twitter.com/lcj66Fggkz
— (((Jason Rantz))) on KTTH Radio (@jasonrantz) July 29, 2021
It is shocking what a coward this guy's turned into. I didn't always agree with him, but could always count on him to give a thoughtful and reasoned conservative position.
On this issue, you couldn't distinguish him from the big govt. lefties who haven't seen a mask mandate or lockdown they didn't like. It's as if he has no faith at all.
The old saying remains true - people will trade freedom for security. That seems to be the case with poor Sam.
I'm not arguing against mask usage, just the governmental mandating of it. Hence the parallel.
Like I said, fear makes people trade freedom for security.
I think your cowardice has made you stupid. In case you didn't notice, those didn't work at all.
Never figured you for such a *****.
Not afraid. But having a son severely injured by a vaccine and with vaccine makers granted total immunity - it's more a principled position than anything.
I'm not a big pharma supporting sheep like you are. I'm also not afraid of death. I don't have to do any good work to know that as you do. I have eternal security because I believe the Bible.
This vaccine has been granted total immunity. Do your research.
You're clueless.
https://www.wusa9.com/mobile/article/news/verify/adverse-effects-side-effects-covid-19-can-vaccine-comapnies-be-sued-for-complications-from-symptoms-verify-fact-check/65-ae9305ac-1193-4b7a-a90f-eb8536f06058
You probably need to read that article again. It's misleading conclusion is not correct.
As of right now, vaccine makers have total immunity from lawsuit, and not just adverse side effects.
Is it that their immunity doesn't exist if they are committing fraud?
If that's the case, then they must be found guilty in a separate fraud case before anything against them moves forward, correct?
Wrong.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:You are in error. I suggest reading last year's HHS declaration and the relevant sections of the PREP Act.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Nope.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Vaccine makers don't have total immunity. Your personal feelings about death and religion are irrelevant to scientific questions. "We can all go to a better place" is a poor argument when we're supposed to be trying to save lives. Preaching is empty and of no use when needs aren't being met (see James 2).Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Says the guy who's afraid of a jab.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Or in your case, lives for the economy.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:That fine as long as you can hold your breath. Otherwise the air is a public good.ATL Bear said:From the point it enters and exits my body I would assume so.Sam Lowry said:Do you?ATL Bear said:Does government own the air we breathe?Sam Lowry said:Pregnancy isn't airborne. I'm sure you can imagine the demand for precautions if it were.ATL Bear said:Agree, and? This is about lowering the opportunity for death/harm caused by the actions of another, right? Isn't that your "prolife" argument for masks? Wearing a mask isn't healthcare any more than wearing a condom is.Sam Lowry said:ATL Bear said:I wouldn't support government mandated condom wearing to prevent abortion.Sam Lowry said:It is shocking how indifferent you "pro-lifers" have become. It's as if you have no faith at all.Mothra said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Mask up Sam. Board up your windows with plywood and make sure your Papa John's delivery guy has on a Haz-Mat suit when he delivers your pizza. If the Haz-Mat suit is white, you should reject the pizza delivery and make sure he or someone else comes back in a black Haz-Mat suit. I really hope your pizza does not get cold!Sam Lowry said:Evidently not.Rawhide said:Your average American is sick and tired of masks, mandates and lockdownsDoc Holliday said:
Lockdown coming back?BREAKING: The Biden administration indicates they are open to returning to lockdowns. pic.twitter.com/lcj66Fggkz
— (((Jason Rantz))) on KTTH Radio (@jasonrantz) July 29, 2021
It is shocking what a coward this guy's turned into. I didn't always agree with him, but could always count on him to give a thoughtful and reasoned conservative position.
On this issue, you couldn't distinguish him from the big govt. lefties who haven't seen a mask mandate or lockdown they didn't like. It's as if he has no faith at all.
The old saying remains true - people will trade freedom for security. That seems to be the case with poor Sam.
I'm not arguing against mask usage, just the governmental mandating of it. Hence the parallel.
Like I said, fear makes people trade freedom for security.
I think your cowardice has made you stupid. In case you didn't notice, those didn't work at all.
Never figured you for such a *****.
Not afraid. But having a son severely injured by a vaccine and with vaccine makers granted total immunity - it's more a principled position than anything.
I'm not a big pharma supporting sheep like you are. I'm also not afraid of death. I don't have to do any good work to know that as you do. I have eternal security because I believe the Bible.
This vaccine has been granted total immunity. Do your research.
You're clueless.
https://www.wusa9.com/mobile/article/news/verify/adverse-effects-side-effects-covid-19-can-vaccine-comapnies-be-sued-for-complications-from-symptoms-verify-fact-check/65-ae9305ac-1193-4b7a-a90f-eb8536f06058
You probably need to read that article again. It's misleading conclusion is not correct.
As of right now, vaccine makers have total immunity from lawsuit, and not just adverse side effects.
Anyone who has harmful side effects and death from this vaccine has no case against the manufacturer. They have been given immunity. Other vaccines don't possess this immunity.
I'm sure you're perfectly fine with that.
DOOCY: "What is the thinking about letting untested and unvaccinated migrants cross the southern border in record numbers?"
— Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) August 3, 2021
BIDEN: "We have not withdrawn the order that is sometimes -- criticized saying that unvaccinated people should go back across the border." pic.twitter.com/W8Ob3vX6HJ
That would be a first!Florda_mike said:Sam Lowry said:Any willful misconduct. It's all part of the same case, not a separate process.Florda_mike said:Sam Lowry said:You are in error. I suggest reading last year's HHS declaration and the relevant sections of the PREP Act.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Nope.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Vaccine makers don't have total immunity. Your personal feelings about death and religion are irrelevant to scientific questions. "We can all go to a better place" is a poor argument when we're supposed to be trying to save lives. Preaching is empty and of no use when needs aren't being met (see James 2).Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Says the guy who's afraid of a jab.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Or in your case, lives for the economy.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:That fine as long as you can hold your breath. Otherwise the air is a public good.ATL Bear said:From the point it enters and exits my body I would assume so.Sam Lowry said:Do you?ATL Bear said:Does government own the air we breathe?Sam Lowry said:Pregnancy isn't airborne. I'm sure you can imagine the demand for precautions if it were.ATL Bear said:Agree, and? This is about lowering the opportunity for death/harm caused by the actions of another, right? Isn't that your "prolife" argument for masks? Wearing a mask isn't healthcare any more than wearing a condom is.Sam Lowry said:ATL Bear said:I wouldn't support government mandated condom wearing to prevent abortion.Sam Lowry said:It is shocking how indifferent you "pro-lifers" have become. It's as if you have no faith at all.Mothra said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Mask up Sam. Board up your windows with plywood and make sure your Papa John's delivery guy has on a Haz-Mat suit when he delivers your pizza. If the Haz-Mat suit is white, you should reject the pizza delivery and make sure he or someone else comes back in a black Haz-Mat suit. I really hope your pizza does not get cold!Sam Lowry said:Evidently not.Rawhide said:Your average American is sick and tired of masks, mandates and lockdownsDoc Holliday said:
Lockdown coming back?BREAKING: The Biden administration indicates they are open to returning to lockdowns. pic.twitter.com/lcj66Fggkz
— (((Jason Rantz))) on KTTH Radio (@jasonrantz) July 29, 2021
It is shocking what a coward this guy's turned into. I didn't always agree with him, but could always count on him to give a thoughtful and reasoned conservative position.
On this issue, you couldn't distinguish him from the big govt. lefties who haven't seen a mask mandate or lockdown they didn't like. It's as if he has no faith at all.
The old saying remains true - people will trade freedom for security. That seems to be the case with poor Sam.
I'm not arguing against mask usage, just the governmental mandating of it. Hence the parallel.
Like I said, fear makes people trade freedom for security.
I think your cowardice has made you stupid. In case you didn't notice, those didn't work at all.
Never figured you for such a *****.
Not afraid. But having a son severely injured by a vaccine and with vaccine makers granted total immunity - it's more a principled position than anything.
I'm not a big pharma supporting sheep like you are. I'm also not afraid of death. I don't have to do any good work to know that as you do. I have eternal security because I believe the Bible.
This vaccine has been granted total immunity. Do your research.
You're clueless.
https://www.wusa9.com/mobile/article/news/verify/adverse-effects-side-effects-covid-19-can-vaccine-comapnies-be-sued-for-complications-from-symptoms-verify-fact-check/65-ae9305ac-1193-4b7a-a90f-eb8536f06058
You probably need to read that article again. It's misleading conclusion is not correct.
As of right now, vaccine makers have total immunity from lawsuit, and not just adverse side effects.
Is it that their immunity doesn't exist if they are committing fraud?
If that's the case, then they must be found guilty in a separate fraud case before anything against them moves forward, correct?
What's the chances of class action suit?
Wondering if you'll match what I've heard
Sam Lowry said:That would be a first!Florda_mike said:Sam Lowry said:Any willful misconduct. It's all part of the same case, not a separate process.Florda_mike said:Sam Lowry said:You are in error. I suggest reading last year's HHS declaration and the relevant sections of the PREP Act.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Nope.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Vaccine makers don't have total immunity. Your personal feelings about death and religion are irrelevant to scientific questions. "We can all go to a better place" is a poor argument when we're supposed to be trying to save lives. Preaching is empty and of no use when needs aren't being met (see James 2).Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Says the guy who's afraid of a jab.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Or in your case, lives for the economy.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:That fine as long as you can hold your breath. Otherwise the air is a public good.ATL Bear said:From the point it enters and exits my body I would assume so.Sam Lowry said:Do you?ATL Bear said:Does government own the air we breathe?Sam Lowry said:Pregnancy isn't airborne. I'm sure you can imagine the demand for precautions if it were.ATL Bear said:Agree, and? This is about lowering the opportunity for death/harm caused by the actions of another, right? Isn't that your "prolife" argument for masks? Wearing a mask isn't healthcare any more than wearing a condom is.Sam Lowry said:ATL Bear said:I wouldn't support government mandated condom wearing to prevent abortion.Sam Lowry said:It is shocking how indifferent you "pro-lifers" have become. It's as if you have no faith at all.Mothra said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Mask up Sam. Board up your windows with plywood and make sure your Papa John's delivery guy has on a Haz-Mat suit when he delivers your pizza. If the Haz-Mat suit is white, you should reject the pizza delivery and make sure he or someone else comes back in a black Haz-Mat suit. I really hope your pizza does not get cold!Sam Lowry said:Evidently not.Rawhide said:Your average American is sick and tired of masks, mandates and lockdownsDoc Holliday said:
Lockdown coming back?BREAKING: The Biden administration indicates they are open to returning to lockdowns. pic.twitter.com/lcj66Fggkz
— (((Jason Rantz))) on KTTH Radio (@jasonrantz) July 29, 2021
It is shocking what a coward this guy's turned into. I didn't always agree with him, but could always count on him to give a thoughtful and reasoned conservative position.
On this issue, you couldn't distinguish him from the big govt. lefties who haven't seen a mask mandate or lockdown they didn't like. It's as if he has no faith at all.
The old saying remains true - people will trade freedom for security. That seems to be the case with poor Sam.
I'm not arguing against mask usage, just the governmental mandating of it. Hence the parallel.
Like I said, fear makes people trade freedom for security.
I think your cowardice has made you stupid. In case you didn't notice, those didn't work at all.
Never figured you for such a *****.
Not afraid. But having a son severely injured by a vaccine and with vaccine makers granted total immunity - it's more a principled position than anything.
I'm not a big pharma supporting sheep like you are. I'm also not afraid of death. I don't have to do any good work to know that as you do. I have eternal security because I believe the Bible.
This vaccine has been granted total immunity. Do your research.
You're clueless.
https://www.wusa9.com/mobile/article/news/verify/adverse-effects-side-effects-covid-19-can-vaccine-comapnies-be-sued-for-complications-from-symptoms-verify-fact-check/65-ae9305ac-1193-4b7a-a90f-eb8536f06058
You probably need to read that article again. It's misleading conclusion is not correct.
As of right now, vaccine makers have total immunity from lawsuit, and not just adverse side effects.
Is it that their immunity doesn't exist if they are committing fraud?
If that's the case, then they must be found guilty in a separate fraud case before anything against them moves forward, correct?
What's the chances of class action suit?
Wondering if you'll match what I've heard
To answer your question, though, I'd say far-fetched is an understatement.
Covid vaccine makers have the same kind of immunity as other vaccine makers, which is partial immunity. This immunity exists because of a panic in the 1980s driven by misinformation about the DPT vaccine. There was a real concern that if manufacturers had to defend themselves in court against every bogus claim, we would end up with no vaccines. Pertussis is a horrible way to die, and it affects infants who are too young for the vaccine. They rely on herd immunity from the vaccinated. For all the fear-mongering about the one case in a million (literally one in 1.2 million) of proven adverse reactions, little is said about the much greater suffering and death from disease.Florda_mike said:Sam Lowry said:That would be a first!Florda_mike said:Sam Lowry said:Any willful misconduct. It's all part of the same case, not a separate process.Florda_mike said:Sam Lowry said:You are in error. I suggest reading last year's HHS declaration and the relevant sections of the PREP Act.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Nope.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Vaccine makers don't have total immunity. Your personal feelings about death and religion are irrelevant to scientific questions. "We can all go to a better place" is a poor argument when we're supposed to be trying to save lives. Preaching is empty and of no use when needs aren't being met (see James 2).Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Says the guy who's afraid of a jab.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Or in your case, lives for the economy.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:That fine as long as you can hold your breath. Otherwise the air is a public good.ATL Bear said:From the point it enters and exits my body I would assume so.Sam Lowry said:Do you?ATL Bear said:Does government own the air we breathe?Sam Lowry said:Pregnancy isn't airborne. I'm sure you can imagine the demand for precautions if it were.ATL Bear said:Agree, and? This is about lowering the opportunity for death/harm caused by the actions of another, right? Isn't that your "prolife" argument for masks? Wearing a mask isn't healthcare any more than wearing a condom is.Sam Lowry said:ATL Bear said:I wouldn't support government mandated condom wearing to prevent abortion.Sam Lowry said:It is shocking how indifferent you "pro-lifers" have become. It's as if you have no faith at all.Mothra said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Mask up Sam. Board up your windows with plywood and make sure your Papa John's delivery guy has on a Haz-Mat suit when he delivers your pizza. If the Haz-Mat suit is white, you should reject the pizza delivery and make sure he or someone else comes back in a black Haz-Mat suit. I really hope your pizza does not get cold!Sam Lowry said:Evidently not.Rawhide said:Your average American is sick and tired of masks, mandates and lockdownsDoc Holliday said:
Lockdown coming back?BREAKING: The Biden administration indicates they are open to returning to lockdowns. pic.twitter.com/lcj66Fggkz
— (((Jason Rantz))) on KTTH Radio (@jasonrantz) July 29, 2021
It is shocking what a coward this guy's turned into. I didn't always agree with him, but could always count on him to give a thoughtful and reasoned conservative position.
On this issue, you couldn't distinguish him from the big govt. lefties who haven't seen a mask mandate or lockdown they didn't like. It's as if he has no faith at all.
The old saying remains true - people will trade freedom for security. That seems to be the case with poor Sam.
I'm not arguing against mask usage, just the governmental mandating of it. Hence the parallel.
Like I said, fear makes people trade freedom for security.
I think your cowardice has made you stupid. In case you didn't notice, those didn't work at all.
Never figured you for such a *****.
Not afraid. But having a son severely injured by a vaccine and with vaccine makers granted total immunity - it's more a principled position than anything.
I'm not a big pharma supporting sheep like you are. I'm also not afraid of death. I don't have to do any good work to know that as you do. I have eternal security because I believe the Bible.
This vaccine has been granted total immunity. Do your research.
You're clueless.
https://www.wusa9.com/mobile/article/news/verify/adverse-effects-side-effects-covid-19-can-vaccine-comapnies-be-sued-for-complications-from-symptoms-verify-fact-check/65-ae9305ac-1193-4b7a-a90f-eb8536f06058
You probably need to read that article again. It's misleading conclusion is not correct.
As of right now, vaccine makers have total immunity from lawsuit, and not just adverse side effects.
Is it that their immunity doesn't exist if they are committing fraud?
If that's the case, then they must be found guilty in a separate fraud case before anything against them moves forward, correct?
What's the chances of class action suit?
Wondering if you'll match what I've heard
To answer your question, though, I'd say far-fetched is an understatement.
Yeah I think LIQ bases much of what he predicts in that, although we're right, nothing will get through our corrupt government and legal system
Sam Lowry said:Covid vaccine makers have the same kind of immunity as other vaccine makers, which is partial immunity. This immunity exists because of a panic in the 1980s driven by misinformation about the DPT vaccine. There was a real concern that if manufacturers had to defend themselves in court against every bogus claim, we would end up with no vaccines. Pertussis is a horrible way to die, and it affects infants who are too young for the vaccine. They rely on herd immunity. For all the fear-mongering about the one case in a million (literally one in 1.2 million) of proven adverse reactions, little is said about the much greater suffering and death from disease.Florda_mike said:Sam Lowry said:That would be a first!Florda_mike said:Sam Lowry said:Any willful misconduct. It's all part of the same case, not a separate process.Florda_mike said:Sam Lowry said:You are in error. I suggest reading last year's HHS declaration and the relevant sections of the PREP Act.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Nope.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Vaccine makers don't have total immunity. Your personal feelings about death and religion are irrelevant to scientific questions. "We can all go to a better place" is a poor argument when we're supposed to be trying to save lives. Preaching is empty and of no use when needs aren't being met (see James 2).Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Says the guy who's afraid of a jab.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Or in your case, lives for the economy.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:That fine as long as you can hold your breath. Otherwise the air is a public good.ATL Bear said:From the point it enters and exits my body I would assume so.Sam Lowry said:Do you?ATL Bear said:Does government own the air we breathe?Sam Lowry said:Pregnancy isn't airborne. I'm sure you can imagine the demand for precautions if it were.ATL Bear said:Agree, and? This is about lowering the opportunity for death/harm caused by the actions of another, right? Isn't that your "prolife" argument for masks? Wearing a mask isn't healthcare any more than wearing a condom is.Sam Lowry said:ATL Bear said:I wouldn't support government mandated condom wearing to prevent abortion.Sam Lowry said:It is shocking how indifferent you "pro-lifers" have become. It's as if you have no faith at all.Mothra said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Mask up Sam. Board up your windows with plywood and make sure your Papa John's delivery guy has on a Haz-Mat suit when he delivers your pizza. If the Haz-Mat suit is white, you should reject the pizza delivery and make sure he or someone else comes back in a black Haz-Mat suit. I really hope your pizza does not get cold!Sam Lowry said:Evidently not.Rawhide said:Your average American is sick and tired of masks, mandates and lockdownsDoc Holliday said:
Lockdown coming back?BREAKING: The Biden administration indicates they are open to returning to lockdowns. pic.twitter.com/lcj66Fggkz
— (((Jason Rantz))) on KTTH Radio (@jasonrantz) July 29, 2021
It is shocking what a coward this guy's turned into. I didn't always agree with him, but could always count on him to give a thoughtful and reasoned conservative position.
On this issue, you couldn't distinguish him from the big govt. lefties who haven't seen a mask mandate or lockdown they didn't like. It's as if he has no faith at all.
The old saying remains true - people will trade freedom for security. That seems to be the case with poor Sam.
I'm not arguing against mask usage, just the governmental mandating of it. Hence the parallel.
Like I said, fear makes people trade freedom for security.
I think your cowardice has made you stupid. In case you didn't notice, those didn't work at all.
Never figured you for such a *****.
Not afraid. But having a son severely injured by a vaccine and with vaccine makers granted total immunity - it's more a principled position than anything.
I'm not a big pharma supporting sheep like you are. I'm also not afraid of death. I don't have to do any good work to know that as you do. I have eternal security because I believe the Bible.
This vaccine has been granted total immunity. Do your research.
You're clueless.
https://www.wusa9.com/mobile/article/news/verify/adverse-effects-side-effects-covid-19-can-vaccine-comapnies-be-sued-for-complications-from-symptoms-verify-fact-check/65-ae9305ac-1193-4b7a-a90f-eb8536f06058
You probably need to read that article again. It's misleading conclusion is not correct.
As of right now, vaccine makers have total immunity from lawsuit, and not just adverse side effects.
Is it that their immunity doesn't exist if they are committing fraud?
If that's the case, then they must be found guilty in a separate fraud case before anything against them moves forward, correct?
What's the chances of class action suit?
Wondering if you'll match what I've heard
To answer your question, though, I'd say far-fetched is an understatement.
Yeah I think LIQ bases much of what he predicts in that, although we're right, nothing will get through our corrupt government and legal system
Sam Lowry said:Covid vaccine makers have the same kind of immunity as other vaccine makers, which is partial immunity. This immunity exists because of a panic in the 1980s driven by misinformation about the DPT vaccine. There was a real concern that if manufacturers had to defend themselves in court against every bogus claim, we would end up with no vaccines. Pertussis is a horrible way to die, and it affects infants who are too young for the vaccine. They rely on herd immunity. For all the fear-mongering about the one case in a million (literally one in 1.2 million) of proven adverse reactions, little is said about the much greater suffering and death from disease.Florda_mike said:Sam Lowry said:That would be a first!Florda_mike said:Sam Lowry said:Any willful misconduct. It's all part of the same case, not a separate process.Florda_mike said:Sam Lowry said:You are in error. I suggest reading last year's HHS declaration and the relevant sections of the PREP Act.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Nope.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Vaccine makers don't have total immunity. Your personal feelings about death and religion are irrelevant to scientific questions. "We can all go to a better place" is a poor argument when we're supposed to be trying to save lives. Preaching is empty and of no use when needs aren't being met (see James 2).Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Says the guy who's afraid of a jab.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Or in your case, lives for the economy.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:That fine as long as you can hold your breath. Otherwise the air is a public good.ATL Bear said:From the point it enters and exits my body I would assume so.Sam Lowry said:Do you?ATL Bear said:Does government own the air we breathe?Sam Lowry said:Pregnancy isn't airborne. I'm sure you can imagine the demand for precautions if it were.ATL Bear said:Agree, and? This is about lowering the opportunity for death/harm caused by the actions of another, right? Isn't that your "prolife" argument for masks? Wearing a mask isn't healthcare any more than wearing a condom is.Sam Lowry said:ATL Bear said:I wouldn't support government mandated condom wearing to prevent abortion.Sam Lowry said:It is shocking how indifferent you "pro-lifers" have become. It's as if you have no faith at all.Mothra said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Mask up Sam. Board up your windows with plywood and make sure your Papa John's delivery guy has on a Haz-Mat suit when he delivers your pizza. If the Haz-Mat suit is white, you should reject the pizza delivery and make sure he or someone else comes back in a black Haz-Mat suit. I really hope your pizza does not get cold!Sam Lowry said:Evidently not.Rawhide said:Your average American is sick and tired of masks, mandates and lockdownsDoc Holliday said:
Lockdown coming back?BREAKING: The Biden administration indicates they are open to returning to lockdowns. pic.twitter.com/lcj66Fggkz
— (((Jason Rantz))) on KTTH Radio (@jasonrantz) July 29, 2021
It is shocking what a coward this guy's turned into. I didn't always agree with him, but could always count on him to give a thoughtful and reasoned conservative position.
On this issue, you couldn't distinguish him from the big govt. lefties who haven't seen a mask mandate or lockdown they didn't like. It's as if he has no faith at all.
The old saying remains true - people will trade freedom for security. That seems to be the case with poor Sam.
I'm not arguing against mask usage, just the governmental mandating of it. Hence the parallel.
Like I said, fear makes people trade freedom for security.
I think your cowardice has made you stupid. In case you didn't notice, those didn't work at all.
Never figured you for such a *****.
Not afraid. But having a son severely injured by a vaccine and with vaccine makers granted total immunity - it's more a principled position than anything.
I'm not a big pharma supporting sheep like you are. I'm also not afraid of death. I don't have to do any good work to know that as you do. I have eternal security because I believe the Bible.
This vaccine has been granted total immunity. Do your research.
You're clueless.
https://www.wusa9.com/mobile/article/news/verify/adverse-effects-side-effects-covid-19-can-vaccine-comapnies-be-sued-for-complications-from-symptoms-verify-fact-check/65-ae9305ac-1193-4b7a-a90f-eb8536f06058
You probably need to read that article again. It's misleading conclusion is not correct.
As of right now, vaccine makers have total immunity from lawsuit, and not just adverse side effects.
Is it that their immunity doesn't exist if they are committing fraud?
If that's the case, then they must be found guilty in a separate fraud case before anything against them moves forward, correct?
What's the chances of class action suit?
Wondering if you'll match what I've heard
To answer your question, though, I'd say far-fetched is an understatement.
Yeah I think LIQ bases much of what he predicts in that, although we're right, nothing will get through our corrupt government and legal system
If you have a legitimate fault-based claim, you can take it to federal court. If you have a legitimate no-fault claim, you can take it to vaccine court. Basically the only difference is a uniform cap on damages. What Reagan did, in effect, was enact tort reform at the national level for a certain type of case (tort reform being a policy that conservatives generally favor).Florda_mike said:Sam Lowry said:Covid vaccine makers have the same kind of immunity as other vaccine makers, which is partial immunity. This immunity exists because of a panic in the 1980s driven by misinformation about the DPT vaccine. There was a real concern that if manufacturers had to defend themselves in court against every bogus claim, we would end up with no vaccines. Pertussis is a horrible way to die, and it affects infants who are too young for the vaccine. They rely on herd immunity. For all the fear-mongering about the one case in a million (literally one in 1.2 million) of proven adverse reactions, little is said about the much greater suffering and death from disease.Florda_mike said:Sam Lowry said:That would be a first!Florda_mike said:Sam Lowry said:Any willful misconduct. It's all part of the same case, not a separate process.Florda_mike said:Sam Lowry said:You are in error. I suggest reading last year's HHS declaration and the relevant sections of the PREP Act.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Nope.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Vaccine makers don't have total immunity. Your personal feelings about death and religion are irrelevant to scientific questions. "We can all go to a better place" is a poor argument when we're supposed to be trying to save lives. Preaching is empty and of no use when needs aren't being met (see James 2).Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Says the guy who's afraid of a jab.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:Or in your case, lives for the economy.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:That fine as long as you can hold your breath. Otherwise the air is a public good.ATL Bear said:From the point it enters and exits my body I would assume so.Sam Lowry said:Do you?ATL Bear said:Does government own the air we breathe?Sam Lowry said:Pregnancy isn't airborne. I'm sure you can imagine the demand for precautions if it were.ATL Bear said:Agree, and? This is about lowering the opportunity for death/harm caused by the actions of another, right? Isn't that your "prolife" argument for masks? Wearing a mask isn't healthcare any more than wearing a condom is.Sam Lowry said:ATL Bear said:I wouldn't support government mandated condom wearing to prevent abortion.Sam Lowry said:It is shocking how indifferent you "pro-lifers" have become. It's as if you have no faith at all.Mothra said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Mask up Sam. Board up your windows with plywood and make sure your Papa John's delivery guy has on a Haz-Mat suit when he delivers your pizza. If the Haz-Mat suit is white, you should reject the pizza delivery and make sure he or someone else comes back in a black Haz-Mat suit. I really hope your pizza does not get cold!Sam Lowry said:Evidently not.Rawhide said:Your average American is sick and tired of masks, mandates and lockdownsDoc Holliday said:
Lockdown coming back?BREAKING: The Biden administration indicates they are open to returning to lockdowns. pic.twitter.com/lcj66Fggkz
— (((Jason Rantz))) on KTTH Radio (@jasonrantz) July 29, 2021
It is shocking what a coward this guy's turned into. I didn't always agree with him, but could always count on him to give a thoughtful and reasoned conservative position.
On this issue, you couldn't distinguish him from the big govt. lefties who haven't seen a mask mandate or lockdown they didn't like. It's as if he has no faith at all.
The old saying remains true - people will trade freedom for security. That seems to be the case with poor Sam.
I'm not arguing against mask usage, just the governmental mandating of it. Hence the parallel.
Like I said, fear makes people trade freedom for security.
I think your cowardice has made you stupid. In case you didn't notice, those didn't work at all.
Never figured you for such a *****.
Not afraid. But having a son severely injured by a vaccine and with vaccine makers granted total immunity - it's more a principled position than anything.
I'm not a big pharma supporting sheep like you are. I'm also not afraid of death. I don't have to do any good work to know that as you do. I have eternal security because I believe the Bible.
This vaccine has been granted total immunity. Do your research.
You're clueless.
https://www.wusa9.com/mobile/article/news/verify/adverse-effects-side-effects-covid-19-can-vaccine-comapnies-be-sued-for-complications-from-symptoms-verify-fact-check/65-ae9305ac-1193-4b7a-a90f-eb8536f06058
You probably need to read that article again. It's misleading conclusion is not correct.
As of right now, vaccine makers have total immunity from lawsuit, and not just adverse side effects.
Is it that their immunity doesn't exist if they are committing fraud?
If that's the case, then they must be found guilty in a separate fraud case before anything against them moves forward, correct?
What's the chances of class action suit?
Wondering if you'll match what I've heard
To answer your question, though, I'd say far-fetched is an understatement.
Yeah I think LIQ bases much of what he predicts in that, although we're right, nothing will get through our corrupt government and legal system
Or that 1986 Law signed by Reagan protected Big Pharma from legit claims of vax injuries/deaths before they went bankrupt? That's what happened as they would've had to shut doors permanently without 1986 Law from tons of legit claims too
Of course we need em if 100% safe and saving life and pain though but since 80s we've become a much more unhealthy and drug addicted country and now are at mercy of Big Pharma propaganda and murder if you don't go along with them!
Interestingly enough, the majority of the vaccines you and I received that protect us from the most dangerous diseases were created well before 1986, so I take issue with the idea that these vaccines wouldn't have been created without immunity from liability. They were.Oldbear83 said:
Like a flat armadillo, I find myself in the middle of the highway on this one. Given the character of vaccine research, no company is going to spend the cost for researching vaccines unless they are protected from honest mistakes or unforeseen side effects. This time last year there was a strong demand for a vaccine as soon as possible, which by definition meant there was going to be protection for the companies making the vaccines.
We're still collecting data on the side effects, from number of reactions to the range of severity. While any reaction is alarming for the person suffering it - you may be aware that I am one such person who had a reaction to the Moderna vaccine - given the large number of vaccine doses administered the number of reactions appears - so far - to be within acceptable norms for the situation.
This may change as more information is collected, and if it is learned that a company deliberately skipped a necessary protocol then they deserve to be punished, but for now it appears to me that the companies which put out the vaccines did their best to make them safe and effective.
Mothra said:Interestingly enough, the majority of the vaccines you and I received that protect us from the most dangerous diseases were created well before 1986, so I take issue with the idea that these vaccines wouldn't have been created without immunity from liability. They were.Oldbear83 said:
Like a flat armadillo, I find myself in the middle of the highway on this one. Given the character of vaccine research, no company is going to spend the cost for researching vaccines unless they are protected from honest mistakes or unforeseen side effects. This time last year there was a strong demand for a vaccine as soon as possible, which by definition meant there was going to be protection for the companies making the vaccines.
We're still collecting data on the side effects, from number of reactions to the range of severity. While any reaction is alarming for the person suffering it - you may be aware that I am one such person who had a reaction to the Moderna vaccine - given the large number of vaccine doses administered the number of reactions appears - so far - to be within acceptable norms for the situation.
This may change as more information is collected, and if it is learned that a company deliberately skipped a necessary protocol then they deserve to be punished, but for now it appears to me that the companies which put out the vaccines did their best to make them safe and effective.
The 1986 Act made drug making the most lucrative industry in the world.
They aren't created once and for all. They have to be manufactured continuously.Mothra said:Interestingly enough, the majority of the vaccines you and I received that protect us from the most dangerous diseases were created well before 1986, so I take issue with the idea that these vaccines wouldn't have been created without immunity from liability. They were.Oldbear83 said:
Like a flat armadillo, I find myself in the middle of the highway on this one. Given the character of vaccine research, no company is going to spend the cost for researching vaccines unless they are protected from honest mistakes or unforeseen side effects. This time last year there was a strong demand for a vaccine as soon as possible, which by definition meant there was going to be protection for the companies making the vaccines.
We're still collecting data on the side effects, from number of reactions to the range of severity. While any reaction is alarming for the person suffering it - you may be aware that I am one such person who had a reaction to the Moderna vaccine - given the large number of vaccine doses administered the number of reactions appears - so far - to be within acceptable norms for the situation.
This may change as more information is collected, and if it is learned that a company deliberately skipped a necessary protocol then they deserve to be punished, but for now it appears to me that the companies which put out the vaccines did their best to make them safe and effective.
The 1986 Act made drug making the most lucrative industry in the world.
I understand why you now want to argue semantics, since you've stated information which you knew to be false - namely, that the COVID vaccine makers have the same immunity as other vaccine makers. That's a blatantly false statement, which you well know.Sam Lowry said:
So we've gone from "total immunity" to "total immunity for unintentional conduct." Quite a bit different. If you check the definition of willful misconduct under the PREP Act, you should see that it includes gross negligence as well. What you don't seem to understand is that neither negligence nor any other fault has to be proven in vaccine court. All you have to prove is causation and harm, no matter whether you're dealing with Covid or anything else. Without looking at case law, it does appear that the 1986 provision may have allowed suits for ordinary negligence, so I'll grant that difference. You're still a long way from total immunity in either situation, much less total lack of remedy.
A distinction without a difference.Sam Lowry said:They aren't created once and for all. They have to be manufactured continuously.Mothra said:Interestingly enough, the majority of the vaccines you and I received that protect us from the most dangerous diseases were created well before 1986, so I take issue with the idea that these vaccines wouldn't have been created without immunity from liability. They were.Oldbear83 said:
Like a flat armadillo, I find myself in the middle of the highway on this one. Given the character of vaccine research, no company is going to spend the cost for researching vaccines unless they are protected from honest mistakes or unforeseen side effects. This time last year there was a strong demand for a vaccine as soon as possible, which by definition meant there was going to be protection for the companies making the vaccines.
We're still collecting data on the side effects, from number of reactions to the range of severity. While any reaction is alarming for the person suffering it - you may be aware that I am one such person who had a reaction to the Moderna vaccine - given the large number of vaccine doses administered the number of reactions appears - so far - to be within acceptable norms for the situation.
This may change as more information is collected, and if it is learned that a company deliberately skipped a necessary protocol then they deserve to be punished, but for now it appears to me that the companies which put out the vaccines did their best to make them safe and effective.
The 1986 Act made drug making the most lucrative industry in the world.
Not really. Every year a new variant of the vaccine has to be produced, and each batch is subject to the same legal scrutiny as if it were a new vaccine.Mothra said:A distinction without a difference.Sam Lowry said:They aren't created once and for all. They have to be manufactured continuously.Mothra said:Interestingly enough, the majority of the vaccines you and I received that protect us from the most dangerous diseases were created well before 1986, so I take issue with the idea that these vaccines wouldn't have been created without immunity from liability. They were.Oldbear83 said:
Like a flat armadillo, I find myself in the middle of the highway on this one. Given the character of vaccine research, no company is going to spend the cost for researching vaccines unless they are protected from honest mistakes or unforeseen side effects. This time last year there was a strong demand for a vaccine as soon as possible, which by definition meant there was going to be protection for the companies making the vaccines.
We're still collecting data on the side effects, from number of reactions to the range of severity. While any reaction is alarming for the person suffering it - you may be aware that I am one such person who had a reaction to the Moderna vaccine - given the large number of vaccine doses administered the number of reactions appears - so far - to be within acceptable norms for the situation.
This may change as more information is collected, and if it is learned that a company deliberately skipped a necessary protocol then they deserve to be punished, but for now it appears to me that the companies which put out the vaccines did their best to make them safe and effective.
The 1986 Act made drug making the most lucrative industry in the world.
