Me, me, me.Amal Shuq-Up said:I don't need a vaccine for a disease that will likely not affect me in any lasting way. The threat from the vaccine is actually greater to me than covid.Osodecentx said:LOLAmal Shuq-Up said:LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.Osodecentx said:Because the vaxxed may have a subclinical case and be spreading a virus that could be devastating to the unvaxxed.D. C. Bear said:Osodecentx said:The masks are for the benefit of the unvaxxed, not the wearer of the mask.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Osodecentx said:The shots are effective & masks can helpAmal Shuq-Up said:Repeat after me: shots are effective, masks are effective, the government response is effective.Doc Holliday said:JUST IN - California imposes statewide mask mandate because of the #Omicron variant starting Wednesday.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 13, 2021
Even the Garden Gnome acknowledged the other day that virus gonna virus.
Then why don't they?
The shots help tremendously. Masking data seem to be mixed and inconclusive.
To make them more emotionally able to cope?
No. Have you always been scared of innocuous vaccines? Give me a break.
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Amal Shuq-Up said:I don't need a vaccine for a disease that will likely not affect me in any lasting way. The threat from the vaccine is actually greater to me than covid.Osodecentx said:LOLAmal Shuq-Up said:LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.Osodecentx said:Because the vaxxed may have a subclinical case and be spreading a virus that could be devastating to the unvaxxed.D. C. Bear said:Osodecentx said:The masks are for the benefit of the unvaxxed, not the wearer of the mask.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Osodecentx said:The shots are effective & masks can helpAmal Shuq-Up said:Repeat after me: shots are effective, masks are effective, the government response is effective.Doc Holliday said:JUST IN - California imposes statewide mask mandate because of the #Omicron variant starting Wednesday.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 13, 2021
Even the Garden Gnome acknowledged the other day that virus gonna virus.
Then why don't they?
The shots help tremendously. Masking data seem to be mixed and inconclusive.
To make them more emotionally able to cope?
No. Have you always been scared of innocuous vaccines? Give me a break.
While possible, that is unlikely to be true.
Sam Lowry said:Me, me, me.Amal Shuq-Up said:I don't need a vaccine for a disease that will likely not affect me in any lasting way. The threat from the vaccine is actually greater to me than covid.Osodecentx said:LOLAmal Shuq-Up said:LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.Osodecentx said:Because the vaxxed may have a subclinical case and be spreading a virus that could be devastating to the unvaxxed.D. C. Bear said:Osodecentx said:The masks are for the benefit of the unvaxxed, not the wearer of the mask.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Osodecentx said:The shots are effective & masks can helpAmal Shuq-Up said:Repeat after me: shots are effective, masks are effective, the government response is effective.Doc Holliday said:JUST IN - California imposes statewide mask mandate because of the #Omicron variant starting Wednesday.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 13, 2021
Even the Garden Gnome acknowledged the other day that virus gonna virus.
Then why don't they?
The shots help tremendously. Masking data seem to be mixed and inconclusive.
To make them more emotionally able to cope?
No. Have you always been scared of innocuous vaccines? Give me a break.
"Me, me, me" is the the reason to get vaccinated.
Neat.Sam Lowry said:There were eight confirmed cases of SARS in the US.Amal Shuq-Up said:LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.Osodecentx said:Because the vaxxed may have a subclinical case and be spreading a virus that could be devastating to the unvaxxed.D. C. Bear said:Osodecentx said:The masks are for the benefit of the unvaxxed, not the wearer of the mask.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Osodecentx said:The shots are effective & masks can helpAmal Shuq-Up said:Repeat after me: shots are effective, masks are effective, the government response is effective.Doc Holliday said:JUST IN - California imposes statewide mask mandate because of the #Omicron variant starting Wednesday.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 13, 2021
Even the Garden Gnome acknowledged the other day that virus gonna virus.
Then why don't they?
The shots help tremendously. Masking data seem to be mixed and inconclusive.
To make them more emotionally able to cope?
You got that right. You make your decisions and leave the rest of us alone.Sam Lowry said:Me, me, me.Amal Shuq-Up said:I don't need a vaccine for a disease that will likely not affect me in any lasting way. The threat from the vaccine is actually greater to me than covid.Osodecentx said:LOLAmal Shuq-Up said:LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.Osodecentx said:Because the vaxxed may have a subclinical case and be spreading a virus that could be devastating to the unvaxxed.D. C. Bear said:Osodecentx said:The masks are for the benefit of the unvaxxed, not the wearer of the mask.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Osodecentx said:The shots are effective & masks can helpAmal Shuq-Up said:Repeat after me: shots are effective, masks are effective, the government response is effective.Doc Holliday said:JUST IN - California imposes statewide mask mandate because of the #Omicron variant starting Wednesday.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 13, 2021
Even the Garden Gnome acknowledged the other day that virus gonna virus.
Then why don't they?
The shots help tremendously. Masking data seem to be mixed and inconclusive.
To make them more emotionally able to cope?
No. Have you always been scared of innocuous vaccines? Give me a break.
Amal Shuq-Up said:LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.Osodecentx said:Because the vaxxed may have a subclinical case and be spreading a virus that could be devastating to the unvaxxed.D. C. Bear said:Osodecentx said:The masks are for the benefit of the unvaxxed, not the wearer of the mask.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Osodecentx said:The shots are effective & masks can helpAmal Shuq-Up said:Repeat after me: shots are effective, masks are effective, the government response is effective.Doc Holliday said:JUST IN - California imposes statewide mask mandate because of the #Omicron variant starting Wednesday.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 13, 2021
Even the Garden Gnome acknowledged the other day that virus gonna virus.
Then why don't they?
The shots help tremendously. Masking data seem to be mixed and inconclusive.
To make them more emotionally able to cope?
He just got through saying he does not choose to wear a mask. Where are you going with this line of questioning?
Just show me your freak out posts when the Swine Flu was going around. Then I will know your response is the same even when people are not being whipped into a frenzy by the media.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.Osodecentx said:Because the vaxxed may have a subclinical case and be spreading a virus that could be devastating to the unvaxxed.D. C. Bear said:Osodecentx said:The masks are for the benefit of the unvaxxed, not the wearer of the mask.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Osodecentx said:The shots are effective & masks can helpAmal Shuq-Up said:Repeat after me: shots are effective, masks are effective, the government response is effective.Doc Holliday said:JUST IN - California imposes statewide mask mandate because of the #Omicron variant starting Wednesday.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 13, 2021
Even the Garden Gnome acknowledged the other day that virus gonna virus.
Then why don't they?
The shots help tremendously. Masking data seem to be mixed and inconclusive.
To make them more emotionally able to cope?
He just got through saying he does not choose to wear a mask. Where are you going with this line of questioning?
As opposed to Fauci, Fauci, Fauci.Sam Lowry said:Me, me, me.Amal Shuq-Up said:I don't need a vaccine for a disease that will likely not affect me in any lasting way. The threat from the vaccine is actually greater to me than covid.Osodecentx said:LOLAmal Shuq-Up said:LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.Osodecentx said:Because the vaxxed may have a subclinical case and be spreading a virus that could be devastating to the unvaxxed.D. C. Bear said:Osodecentx said:The masks are for the benefit of the unvaxxed, not the wearer of the mask.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Osodecentx said:The shots are effective & masks can helpAmal Shuq-Up said:Repeat after me: shots are effective, masks are effective, the government response is effective.Doc Holliday said:JUST IN - California imposes statewide mask mandate because of the #Omicron variant starting Wednesday.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 13, 2021
Even the Garden Gnome acknowledged the other day that virus gonna virus.
Then why don't they?
The shots help tremendously. Masking data seem to be mixed and inconclusive.
To make them more emotionally able to cope?
No. Have you always been scared of innocuous vaccines? Give me a break.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Sam Lowry said:Me, me, me.Amal Shuq-Up said:I don't need a vaccine for a disease that will likely not affect me in any lasting way. The threat from the vaccine is actually greater to me than covid.Osodecentx said:LOLAmal Shuq-Up said:LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.Osodecentx said:Because the vaxxed may have a subclinical case and be spreading a virus that could be devastating to the unvaxxed.D. C. Bear said:Osodecentx said:The masks are for the benefit of the unvaxxed, not the wearer of the mask.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Osodecentx said:The shots are effective & masks can helpAmal Shuq-Up said:Repeat after me: shots are effective, masks are effective, the government response is effective.Doc Holliday said:JUST IN - California imposes statewide mask mandate because of the #Omicron variant starting Wednesday.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 13, 2021
Even the Garden Gnome acknowledged the other day that virus gonna virus.
Then why don't they?
The shots help tremendously. Masking data seem to be mixed and inconclusive.
To make them more emotionally able to cope?
No. Have you always been scared of innocuous vaccines? Give me a break.
Individual liberty scares statists like you.
Amal Shuq-Up said:Just show me your freak out posts when the Swine Flu was going around. Then I will know your response is the same even when people are not being whipped into a frenzy by the media.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.Osodecentx said:Because the vaxxed may have a subclinical case and be spreading a virus that could be devastating to the unvaxxed.D. C. Bear said:Osodecentx said:The masks are for the benefit of the unvaxxed, not the wearer of the mask.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Osodecentx said:The shots are effective & masks can helpAmal Shuq-Up said:Repeat after me: shots are effective, masks are effective, the government response is effective.Doc Holliday said:JUST IN - California imposes statewide mask mandate because of the #Omicron variant starting Wednesday.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 13, 2021
Even the Garden Gnome acknowledged the other day that virus gonna virus.
Then why don't they?
The shots help tremendously. Masking data seem to be mixed and inconclusive.
To make them more emotionally able to cope?
He just got through saying he does not choose to wear a mask. Where are you going with this line of questioning?
Is it your contention that "Swine flu" (was the most recent one 2009-2010?) and COVID-19" are similar in the number of people affected and the degree to which they are affected?
No, thanks to the media and government response to Covid, we can never compare apples to apples. The swine flu was actually a serious threat to every demographic.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Just show me your freak out posts when the Swine Flu was going around. Then I will know your response is the same even when people are not being whipped into a frenzy by the media.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.Osodecentx said:Because the vaxxed may have a subclinical case and be spreading a virus that could be devastating to the unvaxxed.D. C. Bear said:Osodecentx said:The masks are for the benefit of the unvaxxed, not the wearer of the mask.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Osodecentx said:The shots are effective & masks can helpAmal Shuq-Up said:Repeat after me: shots are effective, masks are effective, the government response is effective.Doc Holliday said:JUST IN - California imposes statewide mask mandate because of the #Omicron variant starting Wednesday.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 13, 2021
Even the Garden Gnome acknowledged the other day that virus gonna virus.
Then why don't they?
The shots help tremendously. Masking data seem to be mixed and inconclusive.
To make them more emotionally able to cope?
He just got through saying he does not choose to wear a mask. Where are you going with this line of questioning?
Is it your contention that "Swine flu" (was the most recent one 2009-2010?) and COVID-19" are similar in the number of people affected and the degree to which they are affected?
Amal Shuq-Up said:No, thanks to the media and government response to Covid, we can never compare apples to apples. The swine flu was actually a serious threat to every demographic.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Just show me your freak out posts when the Swine Flu was going around. Then I will know your response is the same even when people are not being whipped into a frenzy by the media.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.Osodecentx said:Because the vaxxed may have a subclinical case and be spreading a virus that could be devastating to the unvaxxed.D. C. Bear said:Osodecentx said:The masks are for the benefit of the unvaxxed, not the wearer of the mask.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Osodecentx said:The shots are effective & masks can helpAmal Shuq-Up said:Repeat after me: shots are effective, masks are effective, the government response is effective.Doc Holliday said:JUST IN - California imposes statewide mask mandate because of the #Omicron variant starting Wednesday.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 13, 2021
Even the Garden Gnome acknowledged the other day that virus gonna virus.
Then why don't they?
The shots help tremendously. Masking data seem to be mixed and inconclusive.
To make them more emotionally able to cope?
He just got through saying he does not choose to wear a mask. Where are you going with this line of questioning?
Is it your contention that "Swine flu" (was the most recent one 2009-2010?) and COVID-19" are similar in the number of people affected and the degree to which they are affected?
We have data on the numbers of people infected, hospitalized and killed by the most recent swine flu outbreak. Is it your contention that this data is similar to that from COVID-19?
Did we run PCR tests on everyone in 2010? No.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:No, thanks to the media and government response to Covid, we can never compare apples to apples. The swine flu was actually a serious threat to every demographic.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Just show me your freak out posts when the Swine Flu was going around. Then I will know your response is the same even when people are not being whipped into a frenzy by the media.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.Osodecentx said:Because the vaxxed may have a subclinical case and be spreading a virus that could be devastating to the unvaxxed.D. C. Bear said:Osodecentx said:The masks are for the benefit of the unvaxxed, not the wearer of the mask.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Osodecentx said:The shots are effective & masks can helpAmal Shuq-Up said:Repeat after me: shots are effective, masks are effective, the government response is effective.Doc Holliday said:JUST IN - California imposes statewide mask mandate because of the #Omicron variant starting Wednesday.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 13, 2021
Even the Garden Gnome acknowledged the other day that virus gonna virus.
Then why don't they?
The shots help tremendously. Masking data seem to be mixed and inconclusive.
To make them more emotionally able to cope?
He just got through saying he does not choose to wear a mask. Where are you going with this line of questioning?
Is it your contention that "Swine flu" (was the most recent one 2009-2010?) and COVID-19" are similar in the number of people affected and the degree to which they are affected?
We have data on the numbers of people infected, hospitalized and killed by the most recent swine flu outbreak. Is it your contention that this data is similar to that from COVID-19?
Amal Shuq-Up said:Did we run PCR tests on everyone in 2010? No.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:No, thanks to the media and government response to Covid, we can never compare apples to apples. The swine flu was actually a serious threat to every demographic.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Just show me your freak out posts when the Swine Flu was going around. Then I will know your response is the same even when people are not being whipped into a frenzy by the media.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.Osodecentx said:Because the vaxxed may have a subclinical case and be spreading a virus that could be devastating to the unvaxxed.D. C. Bear said:Osodecentx said:The masks are for the benefit of the unvaxxed, not the wearer of the mask.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Osodecentx said:The shots are effective & masks can helpAmal Shuq-Up said:Repeat after me: shots are effective, masks are effective, the government response is effective.Doc Holliday said:JUST IN - California imposes statewide mask mandate because of the #Omicron variant starting Wednesday.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 13, 2021
Even the Garden Gnome acknowledged the other day that virus gonna virus.
Then why don't they?
The shots help tremendously. Masking data seem to be mixed and inconclusive.
To make them more emotionally able to cope?
He just got through saying he does not choose to wear a mask. Where are you going with this line of questioning?
Is it your contention that "Swine flu" (was the most recent one 2009-2010?) and COVID-19" are similar in the number of people affected and the degree to which they are affected?
We have data on the numbers of people infected, hospitalized and killed by the most recent swine flu outbreak. Is it your contention that this data is similar to that from COVID-19?
Again, is it your contention that the Swine flu in 2009-2010 is basically the same as COVID -19? If it is, you would have a point in saying "where were your posts about Swine flu?" If it's not the same, you might as well be asking where the posts were about chicken pox.
I am saying that we will never know because the government's response, the media's response, and the public's response to covid has been so disproportionate to the threat and to any prior response to infectious disease. We printed trillions of dollars, told people to stay at home (even if healthy), prohibited the healthy from gathering, and waged a massive media campaign to constantly test people for Covid even if they exhibited zero symptoms. Then we took the pcr test and cycled it up beyond what was previously considered useful.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Did we run PCR tests on everyone in 2010? No.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:No, thanks to the media and government response to Covid, we can never compare apples to apples. The swine flu was actually a serious threat to every demographic.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Just show me your freak out posts when the Swine Flu was going around. Then I will know your response is the same even when people are not being whipped into a frenzy by the media.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.Osodecentx said:Because the vaxxed may have a subclinical case and be spreading a virus that could be devastating to the unvaxxed.D. C. Bear said:Osodecentx said:The masks are for the benefit of the unvaxxed, not the wearer of the mask.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Osodecentx said:The shots are effective & masks can helpAmal Shuq-Up said:Repeat after me: shots are effective, masks are effective, the government response is effective.Doc Holliday said:JUST IN - California imposes statewide mask mandate because of the #Omicron variant starting Wednesday.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 13, 2021
Even the Garden Gnome acknowledged the other day that virus gonna virus.
Then why don't they?
The shots help tremendously. Masking data seem to be mixed and inconclusive.
To make them more emotionally able to cope?
He just got through saying he does not choose to wear a mask. Where are you going with this line of questioning?
Is it your contention that "Swine flu" (was the most recent one 2009-2010?) and COVID-19" are similar in the number of people affected and the degree to which they are affected?
We have data on the numbers of people infected, hospitalized and killed by the most recent swine flu outbreak. Is it your contention that this data is similar to that from COVID-19?
Again, is it your contention that the Swine flu in 2009-2010 is basically the same as COVID -19? If it is, you would have a point in saying "where were your posts about Swine flu?" If it's not the same, you might as well be asking where the posts were about chicken pox.
Two highly contagious respiratory diseases. Two very different government and public responses. The response to Covid was based on irrational fear and also a desire by politicians to control and dominate.
Amal Shuq-Up said:Two highly contagious respiratory diseases. Two very different government and public responses. The response to Covid was based on irrational fear and also a desire by politicians to control and dominate.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Did we run PCR tests on everyone in 2010? No.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:No, thanks to the media and government response to Covid, we can never compare apples to apples. The swine flu was actually a serious threat to every demographic.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Just show me your freak out posts when the Swine Flu was going around. Then I will know your response is the same even when people are not being whipped into a frenzy by the media.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.Osodecentx said:Because the vaxxed may have a subclinical case and be spreading a virus that could be devastating to the unvaxxed.D. C. Bear said:Osodecentx said:The masks are for the benefit of the unvaxxed, not the wearer of the mask.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Osodecentx said:The shots are effective & masks can helpAmal Shuq-Up said:Repeat after me: shots are effective, masks are effective, the government response is effective.Doc Holliday said:JUST IN - California imposes statewide mask mandate because of the #Omicron variant starting Wednesday.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 13, 2021
Even the Garden Gnome acknowledged the other day that virus gonna virus.
Then why don't they?
The shots help tremendously. Masking data seem to be mixed and inconclusive.
To make them more emotionally able to cope?
He just got through saying he does not choose to wear a mask. Where are you going with this line of questioning?
Is it your contention that "Swine flu" (was the most recent one 2009-2010?) and COVID-19" are similar in the number of people affected and the degree to which they are affected?
We have data on the numbers of people infected, hospitalized and killed by the most recent swine flu outbreak. Is it your contention that this data is similar to that from COVID-19?
Again, is it your contention that the Swine flu in 2009-2010 is basically the same as COVID -19? If it is, you would have a point in saying "where were your posts about Swine flu?" If it's not the same, you might as well be asking where the posts were about chicken pox.
The common cold is a highly contagious respiratory disease.
How many dead Americans from swine flu in 2009-2010?
Bunches. Probably should have counted motorcycle crashes and nursing home deaths. Then it would be closer to an apples to apples comparison.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Two highly contagious respiratory diseases. Two very different government and public responses. The response to Covid was based on irrational fear and also a desire by politicians to control and dominate.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Did we run PCR tests on everyone in 2010? No.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:No, thanks to the media and government response to Covid, we can never compare apples to apples. The swine flu was actually a serious threat to every demographic.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Just show me your freak out posts when the Swine Flu was going around. Then I will know your response is the same even when people are not being whipped into a frenzy by the media.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.Osodecentx said:Because the vaxxed may have a subclinical case and be spreading a virus that could be devastating to the unvaxxed.D. C. Bear said:Osodecentx said:The masks are for the benefit of the unvaxxed, not the wearer of the mask.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Osodecentx said:The shots are effective & masks can helpAmal Shuq-Up said:Repeat after me: shots are effective, masks are effective, the government response is effective.Doc Holliday said:JUST IN - California imposes statewide mask mandate because of the #Omicron variant starting Wednesday.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 13, 2021
Even the Garden Gnome acknowledged the other day that virus gonna virus.
Then why don't they?
The shots help tremendously. Masking data seem to be mixed and inconclusive.
To make them more emotionally able to cope?
He just got through saying he does not choose to wear a mask. Where are you going with this line of questioning?
Is it your contention that "Swine flu" (was the most recent one 2009-2010?) and COVID-19" are similar in the number of people affected and the degree to which they are affected?
We have data on the numbers of people infected, hospitalized and killed by the most recent swine flu outbreak. Is it your contention that this data is similar to that from COVID-19?
Again, is it your contention that the Swine flu in 2009-2010 is basically the same as COVID -19? If it is, you would have a point in saying "where were your posts about Swine flu?" If it's not the same, you might as well be asking where the posts were about chicken pox.
The common cold is a highly contagious respiratory disease.
How many dead Americans from swine flu in 2009-2010?
Amal Shuq-Up said:Bunches. Probably should have counted motorcycle crashes and nursing home deaths. Then it would be closer to an apples to apples comparison.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Two highly contagious respiratory diseases. Two very different government and public responses. The response to Covid was based on irrational fear and also a desire by politicians to control and dominate.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Did we run PCR tests on everyone in 2010? No.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:No, thanks to the media and government response to Covid, we can never compare apples to apples. The swine flu was actually a serious threat to every demographic.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Just show me your freak out posts when the Swine Flu was going around. Then I will know your response is the same even when people are not being whipped into a frenzy by the media.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.Osodecentx said:Because the vaxxed may have a subclinical case and be spreading a virus that could be devastating to the unvaxxed.D. C. Bear said:Osodecentx said:The masks are for the benefit of the unvaxxed, not the wearer of the mask.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Osodecentx said:The shots are effective & masks can helpAmal Shuq-Up said:Repeat after me: shots are effective, masks are effective, the government response is effective.Doc Holliday said:JUST IN - California imposes statewide mask mandate because of the #Omicron variant starting Wednesday.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 13, 2021
Even the Garden Gnome acknowledged the other day that virus gonna virus.
Then why don't they?
The shots help tremendously. Masking data seem to be mixed and inconclusive.
To make them more emotionally able to cope?
He just got through saying he does not choose to wear a mask. Where are you going with this line of questioning?
Is it your contention that "Swine flu" (was the most recent one 2009-2010?) and COVID-19" are similar in the number of people affected and the degree to which they are affected?
We have data on the numbers of people infected, hospitalized and killed by the most recent swine flu outbreak. Is it your contention that this data is similar to that from COVID-19?
Again, is it your contention that the Swine flu in 2009-2010 is basically the same as COVID -19? If it is, you would have a point in saying "where were your posts about Swine flu?" If it's not the same, you might as well be asking where the posts were about chicken pox.
The common cold is a highly contagious respiratory disease.
How many dead Americans from swine flu in 2009-2010?
Is it your contention that COVID-19 is basically the same as a normal flu season but the government saw this as a chance to gain more power?
By the way, "bunches" is not a number, or even a range.
Bunches is a whopping sum so large that it does not have to rely on people dying from other causes to startle the reader.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Bunches. Probably should have counted motorcycle crashes and nursing home deaths. Then it would be closer to an apples to apples comparison.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Two highly contagious respiratory diseases. Two very different government and public responses. The response to Covid was based on irrational fear and also a desire by politicians to control and dominate.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Did we run PCR tests on everyone in 2010? No.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:No, thanks to the media and government response to Covid, we can never compare apples to apples. The swine flu was actually a serious threat to every demographic.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Just show me your freak out posts when the Swine Flu was going around. Then I will know your response is the same even when people are not being whipped into a frenzy by the media.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.Osodecentx said:Because the vaxxed may have a subclinical case and be spreading a virus that could be devastating to the unvaxxed.D. C. Bear said:Osodecentx said:The masks are for the benefit of the unvaxxed, not the wearer of the mask.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Osodecentx said:The shots are effective & masks can helpAmal Shuq-Up said:Repeat after me: shots are effective, masks are effective, the government response is effective.Doc Holliday said:JUST IN - California imposes statewide mask mandate because of the #Omicron variant starting Wednesday.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 13, 2021
Even the Garden Gnome acknowledged the other day that virus gonna virus.
Then why don't they?
The shots help tremendously. Masking data seem to be mixed and inconclusive.
To make them more emotionally able to cope?
He just got through saying he does not choose to wear a mask. Where are you going with this line of questioning?
Is it your contention that "Swine flu" (was the most recent one 2009-2010?) and COVID-19" are similar in the number of people affected and the degree to which they are affected?
We have data on the numbers of people infected, hospitalized and killed by the most recent swine flu outbreak. Is it your contention that this data is similar to that from COVID-19?
Again, is it your contention that the Swine flu in 2009-2010 is basically the same as COVID -19? If it is, you would have a point in saying "where were your posts about Swine flu?" If it's not the same, you might as well be asking where the posts were about chicken pox.
The common cold is a highly contagious respiratory disease.
How many dead Americans from swine flu in 2009-2010?
Is it your contention that COVID-19 is basically the same as a normal flu season but the government saw this as a chance to gain more power?
By the way, "bunches" is not a number, or even a range.
Amal Shuq-Up said:Bunches is a whopping sum so large that it does not have to rely on people dying from other causes to startle the reader.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Bunches. Probably should have counted motorcycle crashes and nursing home deaths. Then it would be closer to an apples to apples comparison.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Two highly contagious respiratory diseases. Two very different government and public responses. The response to Covid was based on irrational fear and also a desire by politicians to control and dominate.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Did we run PCR tests on everyone in 2010? No.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:No, thanks to the media and government response to Covid, we can never compare apples to apples. The swine flu was actually a serious threat to every demographic.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Just show me your freak out posts when the Swine Flu was going around. Then I will know your response is the same even when people are not being whipped into a frenzy by the media.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.Osodecentx said:Because the vaxxed may have a subclinical case and be spreading a virus that could be devastating to the unvaxxed.D. C. Bear said:Osodecentx said:The masks are for the benefit of the unvaxxed, not the wearer of the mask.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Osodecentx said:The shots are effective & masks can helpAmal Shuq-Up said:Repeat after me: shots are effective, masks are effective, the government response is effective.Doc Holliday said:JUST IN - California imposes statewide mask mandate because of the #Omicron variant starting Wednesday.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 13, 2021
Even the Garden Gnome acknowledged the other day that virus gonna virus.
Then why don't they?
The shots help tremendously. Masking data seem to be mixed and inconclusive.
To make them more emotionally able to cope?
He just got through saying he does not choose to wear a mask. Where are you going with this line of questioning?
Is it your contention that "Swine flu" (was the most recent one 2009-2010?) and COVID-19" are similar in the number of people affected and the degree to which they are affected?
We have data on the numbers of people infected, hospitalized and killed by the most recent swine flu outbreak. Is it your contention that this data is similar to that from COVID-19?
Again, is it your contention that the Swine flu in 2009-2010 is basically the same as COVID -19? If it is, you would have a point in saying "where were your posts about Swine flu?" If it's not the same, you might as well be asking where the posts were about chicken pox.
The common cold is a highly contagious respiratory disease.
How many dead Americans from swine flu in 2009-2010?
Is it your contention that COVID-19 is basically the same as a normal flu season but the government saw this as a chance to gain more power?
By the way, "bunches" is not a number, or even a range.
COVID death totals don't need to do that.
Quote:
LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.
Survival against a particular threat depends on A. the inherent danger of the threat itself and B.on our (individual and collective) vulnerability/ability/resiliency/competency/adaptability capacity to defeat that threat.
If the threat itself isn't inherently/significantly more dangerous than before, guess where the problem might be?
The same type of virus is going to hit a fat,apathetic, lazy, rigid, unprepared and stupid society alot harder than a lean, caring, industrious,adaptable prepared and competent one.
And yet they do.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Bunches is a whopping sum so large that it does not have to rely on people dying from other causes to startle the reader.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Bunches. Probably should have counted motorcycle crashes and nursing home deaths. Then it would be closer to an apples to apples comparison.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Two highly contagious respiratory diseases. Two very different government and public responses. The response to Covid was based on irrational fear and also a desire by politicians to control and dominate.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Did we run PCR tests on everyone in 2010? No.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:No, thanks to the media and government response to Covid, we can never compare apples to apples. The swine flu was actually a serious threat to every demographic.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Just show me your freak out posts when the Swine Flu was going around. Then I will know your response is the same even when people are not being whipped into a frenzy by the media.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.Osodecentx said:Because the vaxxed may have a subclinical case and be spreading a virus that could be devastating to the unvaxxed.D. C. Bear said:Osodecentx said:The masks are for the benefit of the unvaxxed, not the wearer of the mask.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Osodecentx said:The shots are effective & masks can helpAmal Shuq-Up said:Repeat after me: shots are effective, masks are effective, the government response is effective.Doc Holliday said:JUST IN - California imposes statewide mask mandate because of the #Omicron variant starting Wednesday.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 13, 2021
Even the Garden Gnome acknowledged the other day that virus gonna virus.
Then why don't they?
The shots help tremendously. Masking data seem to be mixed and inconclusive.
To make them more emotionally able to cope?
He just got through saying he does not choose to wear a mask. Where are you going with this line of questioning?
Is it your contention that "Swine flu" (was the most recent one 2009-2010?) and COVID-19" are similar in the number of people affected and the degree to which they are affected?
We have data on the numbers of people infected, hospitalized and killed by the most recent swine flu outbreak. Is it your contention that this data is similar to that from COVID-19?
Again, is it your contention that the Swine flu in 2009-2010 is basically the same as COVID -19? If it is, you would have a point in saying "where were your posts about Swine flu?" If it's not the same, you might as well be asking where the posts were about chicken pox.
The common cold is a highly contagious respiratory disease.
How many dead Americans from swine flu in 2009-2010?
Is it your contention that COVID-19 is basically the same as a normal flu season but the government saw this as a chance to gain more power?
By the way, "bunches" is not a number, or even a range.
COVID death totals don't need to do that.
Amal Shuq-Up said:Just show me your freak out posts when the Swine Flu was going around. Then I will know your response is the same even when people are not being whipped into a frenzy by the media.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.Osodecentx said:Because the vaxxed may have a subclinical case and be spreading a virus that could be devastating to the unvaxxed.D. C. Bear said:Osodecentx said:The masks are for the benefit of the unvaxxed, not the wearer of the mask.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Osodecentx said:The shots are effective & masks can helpAmal Shuq-Up said:Repeat after me: shots are effective, masks are effective, the government response is effective.Doc Holliday said:JUST IN - California imposes statewide mask mandate because of the #Omicron variant starting Wednesday.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 13, 2021
Even the Garden Gnome acknowledged the other day that virus gonna virus.
Then why don't they?
The shots help tremendously. Masking data seem to be mixed and inconclusive.
To make them more emotionally able to cope?
He just got through saying he does not choose to wear a mask. Where are you going with this line of questioning?
You make it sound like Swine Flu and Covid are equally not dangerous. Is that your intention?
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
What I make it sound like is that the reaction to covid is an overreaction.quash said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Just show me your freak out posts when the Swine Flu was going around. Then I will know your response is the same even when people are not being whipped into a frenzy by the media.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.Osodecentx said:Because the vaxxed may have a subclinical case and be spreading a virus that could be devastating to the unvaxxed.D. C. Bear said:Osodecentx said:The masks are for the benefit of the unvaxxed, not the wearer of the mask.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Osodecentx said:The shots are effective & masks can helpAmal Shuq-Up said:Repeat after me: shots are effective, masks are effective, the government response is effective.Doc Holliday said:JUST IN - California imposes statewide mask mandate because of the #Omicron variant starting Wednesday.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 13, 2021
Even the Garden Gnome acknowledged the other day that virus gonna virus.
Then why don't they?
The shots help tremendously. Masking data seem to be mixed and inconclusive.
To make them more emotionally able to cope?
He just got through saying he does not choose to wear a mask. Where are you going with this line of questioning?
You make it sound like Swine Flu and Covid are equally not dangerous. Is that your intention?
And…debunked.Amal Shuq-Up said:And yet they do.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Bunches is a whopping sum so large that it does not have to rely on people dying from other causes to startle the reader.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Bunches. Probably should have counted motorcycle crashes and nursing home deaths. Then it would be closer to an apples to apples comparison.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Two highly contagious respiratory diseases. Two very different government and public responses. The response to Covid was based on irrational fear and also a desire by politicians to control and dominate.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Did we run PCR tests on everyone in 2010? No.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:No, thanks to the media and government response to Covid, we can never compare apples to apples. The swine flu was actually a serious threat to every demographic.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Just show me your freak out posts when the Swine Flu was going around. Then I will know your response is the same even when people are not being whipped into a frenzy by the media.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.Osodecentx said:Because the vaxxed may have a subclinical case and be spreading a virus that could be devastating to the unvaxxed.D. C. Bear said:Osodecentx said:The masks are for the benefit of the unvaxxed, not the wearer of the mask.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Osodecentx said:The shots are effective & masks can helpAmal Shuq-Up said:Repeat after me: shots are effective, masks are effective, the government response is effective.Doc Holliday said:JUST IN - California imposes statewide mask mandate because of the #Omicron variant starting Wednesday.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 13, 2021
Even the Garden Gnome acknowledged the other day that virus gonna virus.
Then why don't they?
The shots help tremendously. Masking data seem to be mixed and inconclusive.
To make them more emotionally able to cope?
He just got through saying he does not choose to wear a mask. Where are you going with this line of questioning?
Is it your contention that "Swine flu" (was the most recent one 2009-2010?) and COVID-19" are similar in the number of people affected and the degree to which they are affected?
We have data on the numbers of people infected, hospitalized and killed by the most recent swine flu outbreak. Is it your contention that this data is similar to that from COVID-19?
Again, is it your contention that the Swine flu in 2009-2010 is basically the same as COVID -19? If it is, you would have a point in saying "where were your posts about Swine flu?" If it's not the same, you might as well be asking where the posts were about chicken pox.
The common cold is a highly contagious respiratory disease.
How many dead Americans from swine flu in 2009-2010?
Is it your contention that COVID-19 is basically the same as a normal flu season but the government saw this as a chance to gain more power?
By the way, "bunches" is not a number, or even a range.
COVID death totals don't need to do that.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/debunking-the-false-claim-that-covid-death-counts-are-inflated1/
Doc Holliday said:
Will masks become the 'new normal' even after the pandemic has passed? Some Americans say soQuote:
"I think we do need a new culture of masks, at least any time not feeling well, and I think masks are in and handshakes out for the indefinite future," said Dr. Tom Frieden, the former director of the C.D.C. during the Obama Administration and the president of global health initiative Resolve to Save Lives.
Some WNY county leaders say they will not enforce NY mask mandate
Some county leaders say they do not have the resources to enforce the mask mandate.
BUFFALO, N.Y. In New York State, you must wear a mask inside any business or venue that doesn't require proof of COVID-19 vaccination to enter.
The new mask mandate which will be enforced by local counties went into effect midnight on Dec. 13.
"I have warned for weeks that additional steps could be necessary, and now we are at that point based upon three metrics: increasing cases, reduced hospital capacity, and insufficient vaccination rates in certain areas," said Gov. Kathy Hochul.
However, in Western New York, county leaders in Genesee, Orleans and Chautauqua counties have announced they will not be enforcing the mandate.
During an interview with 2 On Your Side, Chautauqua County Executive P.J. Wendel said he does not believe it's enforceable and questions the metrics being used to impose the mandate.
"This is a challenging position, it's not that we don't care for the safety and wellbeing of our residents, it's to the contrary," he said. "The question that I ask is, what are the metrics that we use and what are the metrics we are using to come out of it?"
Wendel said he encourages people to wear masks and to get vaccinated, but believes mask wearing shouldn't be mandated. He believes businesses should be able to decide whether to require customers to wear them.
"We are not going out and penalizing those businesses that don't have 100% compliance which is challenging because what are we punishing them under, civil law, criminal law what criminal law are they going to be penalized under? We don't have the resources to police this," Wendel said.
https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/a-few-wny-county-leaders-say-they-will-not-enforce-statewide-mask-mandate-genesee-orleans-chautauqua/71-3285d0cf-752a-4821-90e9-cbc1de258a9f
There have been overreactions by government.Amal Shuq-Up said:What I make it sound like is that the reaction to covid is an overreaction.quash said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Just show me your freak out posts when the Swine Flu was going around. Then I will know your response is the same even when people are not being whipped into a frenzy by the media.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.Osodecentx said:Because the vaxxed may have a subclinical case and be spreading a virus that could be devastating to the unvaxxed.D. C. Bear said:Osodecentx said:The masks are for the benefit of the unvaxxed, not the wearer of the mask.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Osodecentx said:The shots are effective & masks can helpAmal Shuq-Up said:Repeat after me: shots are effective, masks are effective, the government response is effective.Doc Holliday said:JUST IN - California imposes statewide mask mandate because of the #Omicron variant starting Wednesday.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 13, 2021
Even the Garden Gnome acknowledged the other day that virus gonna virus.
Then why don't they?
The shots help tremendously. Masking data seem to be mixed and inconclusive.
To make them more emotionally able to cope?
He just got through saying he does not choose to wear a mask. Where are you going with this line of questioning?
You make it sound like Swine Flu and Covid are equally not dangerous. Is that your intention?
And underreactions by individuals.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
That is kind of our right as individuals.quash said:Amal Shuq-Up said:What I make it sound like is that the reaction to covid is an overreaction.quash said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Just show me your freak out posts when the Swine Flu was going around. Then I will know your response is the same even when people are not being whipped into a frenzy by the media.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.Osodecentx said:Because the vaxxed may have a subclinical case and be spreading a virus that could be devastating to the unvaxxed.D. C. Bear said:Osodecentx said:The masks are for the benefit of the unvaxxed, not the wearer of the mask.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Osodecentx said:The shots are effective & masks can helpAmal Shuq-Up said:Repeat after me: shots are effective, masks are effective, the government response is effective.Doc Holliday said:JUST IN - California imposes statewide mask mandate because of the #Omicron variant starting Wednesday.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 13, 2021
Even the Garden Gnome acknowledged the other day that virus gonna virus.
Then why don't they?
The shots help tremendously. Masking data seem to be mixed and inconclusive.
To make them more emotionally able to cope?
He just got through saying he does not choose to wear a mask. Where are you going with this line of questioning?
You make it sound like Swine Flu and Covid are equally not dangerous. Is that your intention?
And underreactions by individuals.
Amal Shuq-Up said:That is kind of our right as individuals.quash said:Amal Shuq-Up said:What I make it sound like is that the reaction to covid is an overreaction.quash said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Just show me your freak out posts when the Swine Flu was going around. Then I will know your response is the same even when people are not being whipped into a frenzy by the media.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.Osodecentx said:Because the vaxxed may have a subclinical case and be spreading a virus that could be devastating to the unvaxxed.D. C. Bear said:Osodecentx said:The masks are for the benefit of the unvaxxed, not the wearer of the mask.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Osodecentx said:The shots are effective & masks can helpAmal Shuq-Up said:Repeat after me: shots are effective, masks are effective, the government response is effective.Doc Holliday said:JUST IN - California imposes statewide mask mandate because of the #Omicron variant starting Wednesday.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 13, 2021
Even the Garden Gnome acknowledged the other day that virus gonna virus.
Then why don't they?
The shots help tremendously. Masking data seem to be mixed and inconclusive.
To make them more emotionally able to cope?
He just got through saying he does not choose to wear a mask. Where are you going with this line of questioning?
You make it sound like Swine Flu and Covid are equally not dangerous. Is that your intention?
And underreactions by individuals.
I never said, implied, or hinted otherwise. You can underreact or overreact to your heart's content until you affect my rights.
But the corollary would be that you believe the govt has the right to overreact, which I seriously doubt.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
The government does not have any rights. The government has powers. Those used to be limited.quash said:Amal Shuq-Up said:That is kind of our right as individuals.quash said:Amal Shuq-Up said:What I make it sound like is that the reaction to covid is an overreaction.quash said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Just show me your freak out posts when the Swine Flu was going around. Then I will know your response is the same even when people are not being whipped into a frenzy by the media.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.Osodecentx said:Because the vaxxed may have a subclinical case and be spreading a virus that could be devastating to the unvaxxed.D. C. Bear said:Osodecentx said:The masks are for the benefit of the unvaxxed, not the wearer of the mask.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Osodecentx said:The shots are effective & masks can helpAmal Shuq-Up said:Repeat after me: shots are effective, masks are effective, the government response is effective.Doc Holliday said:JUST IN - California imposes statewide mask mandate because of the #Omicron variant starting Wednesday.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 13, 2021
Even the Garden Gnome acknowledged the other day that virus gonna virus.
Then why don't they?
The shots help tremendously. Masking data seem to be mixed and inconclusive.
To make them more emotionally able to cope?
He just got through saying he does not choose to wear a mask. Where are you going with this line of questioning?
You make it sound like Swine Flu and Covid are equally not dangerous. Is that your intention?
And underreactions by individuals.
I never said, implied, or hinted otherwise. You can underreact or overreact to your heart's content until you affect my rights.
But the corollary would be that you believe the govt has the right to overreact, which I seriously doubt.
People have rights. You do not have a right to be free from illness. You do not have a right to be free from the fear or concern that you might get ill. So, you don't have a right to demand that a healthy person remain couped up in their house, wear a mask, or otherwise be restrained or restricted just on the off chance they could potentially be an asymptomatic carrier of something. The government did not have that power; until the people gave up their rights almost two years ago.
Don't forget about the overreactions by individuals because of the overreaction by the media.quash said:There have been overreactions by government.Amal Shuq-Up said:What I make it sound like is that the reaction to covid is an overreaction.quash said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Just show me your freak out posts when the Swine Flu was going around. Then I will know your response is the same even when people are not being whipped into a frenzy by the media.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.Osodecentx said:Because the vaxxed may have a subclinical case and be spreading a virus that could be devastating to the unvaxxed.D. C. Bear said:Osodecentx said:The masks are for the benefit of the unvaxxed, not the wearer of the mask.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Osodecentx said:The shots are effective & masks can helpAmal Shuq-Up said:Repeat after me: shots are effective, masks are effective, the government response is effective.Doc Holliday said:JUST IN - California imposes statewide mask mandate because of the #Omicron variant starting Wednesday.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 13, 2021
Even the Garden Gnome acknowledged the other day that virus gonna virus.
Then why don't they?
The shots help tremendously. Masking data seem to be mixed and inconclusive.
To make them more emotionally able to cope?
He just got through saying he does not choose to wear a mask. Where are you going with this line of questioning?
You make it sound like Swine Flu and Covid are equally not dangerous. Is that your intention?
And underreactions by individuals.
The real threat to personal freedom has been because of the overreaction by gov't, not so much by the underreaction by individuals. Certainly, as a Libertarian you would agree.
The pandemic has exposed the truth by clearly showing which side values freedom and which side believes it to be in the way.
SCOTUS disagrees.Amal Shuq-Up said:The government does not have any rights. The government has powers. Those used to be limited.quash said:Amal Shuq-Up said:That is kind of our right as individuals.quash said:Amal Shuq-Up said:What I make it sound like is that the reaction to covid is an overreaction.quash said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Just show me your freak out posts when the Swine Flu was going around. Then I will know your response is the same even when people are not being whipped into a frenzy by the media.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.Osodecentx said:Because the vaxxed may have a subclinical case and be spreading a virus that could be devastating to the unvaxxed.D. C. Bear said:Osodecentx said:The masks are for the benefit of the unvaxxed, not the wearer of the mask.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Osodecentx said:The shots are effective & masks can helpAmal Shuq-Up said:Repeat after me: shots are effective, masks are effective, the government response is effective.Doc Holliday said:JUST IN - California imposes statewide mask mandate because of the #Omicron variant starting Wednesday.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 13, 2021
Even the Garden Gnome acknowledged the other day that virus gonna virus.
Then why don't they?
The shots help tremendously. Masking data seem to be mixed and inconclusive.
To make them more emotionally able to cope?
He just got through saying he does not choose to wear a mask. Where are you going with this line of questioning?
You make it sound like Swine Flu and Covid are equally not dangerous. Is that your intention?
And underreactions by individuals.
I never said, implied, or hinted otherwise. You can underreact or overreact to your heart's content until you affect my rights.
But the corollary would be that you believe the govt has the right to overreact, which I seriously doubt.
People have rights. You do not have a right to be free from illness. You do not have a right to be free from the fear or concern that you might get ill. So, you don't have a right to demand that a healthy person remain couped up in their house, wear a mask, or otherwise be restrained or restricted just on the off chance they could potentially be an asymptomatic carrier of something. The government did not have that power; until the people gave up their rights almost two years ago.
Rawhide said:Don't forget about the overreactions by individuals because of the overreaction by the media.quash said:There have been overreactions by government.Amal Shuq-Up said:What I make it sound like is that the reaction to covid is an overreaction.quash said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Just show me your freak out posts when the Swine Flu was going around. Then I will know your response is the same even when people are not being whipped into a frenzy by the media.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.Osodecentx said:Because the vaxxed may have a subclinical case and be spreading a virus that could be devastating to the unvaxxed.D. C. Bear said:Osodecentx said:The masks are for the benefit of the unvaxxed, not the wearer of the mask.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Osodecentx said:The shots are effective & masks can helpAmal Shuq-Up said:Repeat after me: shots are effective, masks are effective, the government response is effective.Doc Holliday said:JUST IN - California imposes statewide mask mandate because of the #Omicron variant starting Wednesday.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 13, 2021
Even the Garden Gnome acknowledged the other day that virus gonna virus.
Then why don't they?
The shots help tremendously. Masking data seem to be mixed and inconclusive.
To make them more emotionally able to cope?
He just got through saying he does not choose to wear a mask. Where are you going with this line of questioning?
You make it sound like Swine Flu and Covid are equally not dangerous. Is that your intention?
And underreactions by individuals.
The real threat to personal freedom has been because of the overreaction by gov't, not so much by the underreaction by individuals. Certainly, as a Libertarian you would agree.
The pandemic has exposed the truth by clearly showing which side values freedom and which side believes it to be in the way.
Yes and no.
Has the govt reaction hindered my freedom? Yes.
Has the underreaction by individuals affected me? Yes.
I live less than a mile from the county line. My county has a 28% vaccination rate, the next county over has a 10% rate. Hardly anybody around here wears masks or observes social distancing. Our ICUs are full and new patients are being shipped out. We are operating in pre-pandemic mode.
I got the Moderna jab. I have about 95% protection from Covid, plus the added benefit of getting a milder case should I get infected. I don't want to get infected, that's why I got jabbed and why I will get a booster. While I interact with people more since getting vaccinated I am still not ready for a 2019 style of social interaction. But neither am I doing 2020 again, where I worked from home and stayed out of most businesses. 2022 will be different from both 2019 and 2020.
When I go out in public I assume the majority of people around me are unvaccinated. I then assume there are low odds, but non-zero, that anybody is infected. My job used to involve a fair amount of handshaking and during cold season I would avoid as much of that as I could. That's no longer part of my job but I still have acts I restrict under current circumstances.
I'm not feeling all threatened by this. I take no schadenfreude when I see yet another story about a Covid death involving a vocal anti-vaxxer.
I am mildly impacted by the underreaction of others.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
When did you become a SCOTUS Justice, Sam?Sam Lowry said:SCOTUS disagrees.Amal Shuq-Up said:The government does not have any rights. The government has powers. Those used to be limited.quash said:Amal Shuq-Up said:That is kind of our right as individuals.quash said:Amal Shuq-Up said:What I make it sound like is that the reaction to covid is an overreaction.quash said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Just show me your freak out posts when the Swine Flu was going around. Then I will know your response is the same even when people are not being whipped into a frenzy by the media.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.Osodecentx said:Because the vaxxed may have a subclinical case and be spreading a virus that could be devastating to the unvaxxed.D. C. Bear said:Osodecentx said:The masks are for the benefit of the unvaxxed, not the wearer of the mask.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Osodecentx said:The shots are effective & masks can helpAmal Shuq-Up said:Repeat after me: shots are effective, masks are effective, the government response is effective.Doc Holliday said:JUST IN - California imposes statewide mask mandate because of the #Omicron variant starting Wednesday.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 13, 2021
Even the Garden Gnome acknowledged the other day that virus gonna virus.
Then why don't they?
The shots help tremendously. Masking data seem to be mixed and inconclusive.
To make them more emotionally able to cope?
He just got through saying he does not choose to wear a mask. Where are you going with this line of questioning?
You make it sound like Swine Flu and Covid are equally not dangerous. Is that your intention?
And underreactions by individuals.
I never said, implied, or hinted otherwise. You can underreact or overreact to your heart's content until you affect my rights.
But the corollary would be that you believe the govt has the right to overreact, which I seriously doubt.
People have rights. You do not have a right to be free from illness. You do not have a right to be free from the fear or concern that you might get ill. So, you don't have a right to demand that a healthy person remain couped up in their house, wear a mask, or otherwise be restrained or restricted just on the off chance they could potentially be an asymptomatic carrier of something. The government did not have that power; until the people gave up their rights almost two years ago.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Oldbear83 said:When did you become a SCOTUS Justice, Sam?Sam Lowry said:SCOTUS disagrees.Amal Shuq-Up said:The government does not have any rights. The government has powers. Those used to be limited.quash said:Amal Shuq-Up said:That is kind of our right as individuals.quash said:Amal Shuq-Up said:What I make it sound like is that the reaction to covid is an overreaction.quash said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Just show me your freak out posts when the Swine Flu was going around. Then I will know your response is the same even when people are not being whipped into a frenzy by the media.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:LOL. Were you this concerned about the Swine Flu or SARS a few years ago? Give me a break.Osodecentx said:Because the vaxxed may have a subclinical case and be spreading a virus that could be devastating to the unvaxxed.D. C. Bear said:Osodecentx said:The masks are for the benefit of the unvaxxed, not the wearer of the mask.D. C. Bear said:Amal Shuq-Up said:Osodecentx said:The shots are effective & masks can helpAmal Shuq-Up said:Repeat after me: shots are effective, masks are effective, the government response is effective.Doc Holliday said:JUST IN - California imposes statewide mask mandate because of the #Omicron variant starting Wednesday.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 13, 2021
Even the Garden Gnome acknowledged the other day that virus gonna virus.
Then why don't they?
The shots help tremendously. Masking data seem to be mixed and inconclusive.
To make them more emotionally able to cope?
He just got through saying he does not choose to wear a mask. Where are you going with this line of questioning?
You make it sound like Swine Flu and Covid are equally not dangerous. Is that your intention?
And underreactions by individuals.
I never said, implied, or hinted otherwise. You can underreact or overreact to your heart's content until you affect my rights.
But the corollary would be that you believe the govt has the right to overreact, which I seriously doubt.
People have rights. You do not have a right to be free from illness. You do not have a right to be free from the fear or concern that you might get ill. So, you don't have a right to demand that a healthy person remain couped up in their house, wear a mask, or otherwise be restrained or restricted just on the off chance they could potentially be an asymptomatic carrier of something. The government did not have that power; until the people gave up their rights almost two years ago.
SCOTUS opinions are available to everyone, not merely justices. Sam is correctly referring to Jacobson.
Another non-justice reads Jacobson the same way.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat