Masks are Never Coming Off

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Osodecentx
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Amal Shuq-Up said:

Osodecentx said:

Oldbear83 said:

Osodecentx said:

Oldbear83 said:

The way to unravel this was said long ago:

Follow the money
Help me understand. If I follow the money, where does it lead?

Pfizer Reaps Hundreds of Millions in Profits From Covid Vaccine

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/04/business/pfizer-covid-vaccine-profits.html


"Total revenue was $4.4 billion for the three months ended June 30, 2021, compared to $67 million for the same period in 2020."

https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/moderna-reports-second-quarter-fiscal-year-2021-financial
Help me.
you think Pfizer shouldn't have made the vaccine?
You think they should have given it away?
Help me. Connect dots


If pharma is pushing mandates and/or economic or lifestyle restrictions, then there is the answer.
I don't think they are. Do you?
Wrecks Quan Dough
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Osodecentx said:

Amal Shuq-Up said:

Osodecentx said:

Oldbear83 said:

Osodecentx said:

Oldbear83 said:

The way to unravel this was said long ago:

Follow the money
Help me understand. If I follow the money, where does it lead?

Pfizer Reaps Hundreds of Millions in Profits From Covid Vaccine

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/04/business/pfizer-covid-vaccine-profits.html


"Total revenue was $4.4 billion for the three months ended June 30, 2021, compared to $67 million for the same period in 2020."

https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/moderna-reports-second-quarter-fiscal-year-2021-financial
Help me.
you think Pfizer shouldn't have made the vaccine?
You think they should have given it away?
Help me. Connect dots


If pharma is pushing mandates and/or economic or lifestyle restrictions, then there is the answer.
I don't think they are. Do you?


I have no reason to think they are except for the fact that they benefit from coercing the population to take the jab.
whiterock
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https://www.westernjournal.com/johns-hopkins-doc-says-natural-immunity-27-times-effective-vaccine/
Oldbear83
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Osodecentx said:

Amal Shuq-Up said:

Osodecentx said:

Oldbear83 said:

Osodecentx said:

Oldbear83 said:

The way to unravel this was said long ago:

Follow the money
Help me understand. If I follow the money, where does it lead?

Pfizer Reaps Hundreds of Millions in Profits From Covid Vaccine

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/04/business/pfizer-covid-vaccine-profits.html


"Total revenue was $4.4 billion for the three months ended June 30, 2021, compared to $67 million for the same period in 2020."

https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/moderna-reports-second-quarter-fiscal-year-2021-financial
Help me.
you think Pfizer shouldn't have made the vaccine?
You think they should have given it away?
Help me. Connect dots


If pharma is pushing mandates and/or economic or lifestyle restrictions, then there is the answer.
I don't think they are. Do you?
Consider this list:

https://www.cdcfoundation.org/partner-list/corporations

Or this article

https://www.ashclinicalnews.org/online-exclusives/cdc-pressed-acknowledge-industry-funding/

Or this one

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/01/17/510226214/from-twitter-to-treatment-guidelines-industry-influence-permeates-medicine

Or this one

https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesdigitalcovers/2021/05/14/virus-book-excerpt-nina-burleigh-how-the-covid-19-vaccine-injected-billions-into-big-pharma-albert-bourla-moncef-slaoui/?sh=6b2af4927d80
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Osodecentx
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Oldbear83 said:

Osodecentx said:

Amal Shuq-Up said:

Osodecentx said:

Oldbear83 said:

Osodecentx said:

Oldbear83 said:

The way to unravel this was said long ago:

Follow the money
Help me understand. If I follow the money, where does it lead?

Pfizer Reaps Hundreds of Millions in Profits From Covid Vaccine

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/04/business/pfizer-covid-vaccine-profits.html


"Total revenue was $4.4 billion for the three months ended June 30, 2021, compared to $67 million for the same period in 2020."

https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/moderna-reports-second-quarter-fiscal-year-2021-financial
Help me.
you think Pfizer shouldn't have made the vaccine?
You think they should have given it away?
Help me. Connect dots


If pharma is pushing mandates and/or economic or lifestyle restrictions, then there is the answer.
I don't think they are. Do you?
Consider this list:

https://www.cdcfoundation.org/partner-list/corporations

Or this article

https://www.ashclinicalnews.org/online-exclusives/cdc-pressed-acknowledge-industry-funding/

Or this one

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/01/17/510226214/from-twitter-to-treatment-guidelines-industry-influence-permeates-medicine

Or this one

https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesdigitalcovers/2021/05/14/virus-book-excerpt-nina-burleigh-how-the-covid-19-vaccine-injected-billions-into-big-pharma-albert-bourla-moncef-slaoui/?sh=6b2af4927d80
Connect the dots for me.
I believe Pfizer and Moderna produced vaccines that prevent death and serious injury from Covid. They have therapeutics that will save lives.
They deserve what they are receiving.
Jack Bauer
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I think Michigan Governor just **** herself seeing 50k people rush the field
Oldbear83
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If you refuse to look, it doesn't matter what you are shown.
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Osodecentx
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Oldbear83 said:

If you refuse to look, it doesn't matter what you are shown.
I read everyone of your links. I told you my conclusions in declaratory sentences

You?
quash
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Will state. Will not support. Rinse and repeat.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
Oldbear83
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Osodecentx said:

Oldbear83 said:

If you refuse to look, it doesn't matter what you are shown.
I read everyone of your links. I told you my conclusions in declaratory sentences

You?
You read my posts. only to the point of denying them. There is no evidence you thought - even for a moment - about the point.

As for conclusions, you started with the same ones you are using now.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Osodecentx
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Oldbear83 said:

Osodecentx said:

Oldbear83 said:

If you refuse to look, it doesn't matter what you are shown.
I read everyone of your links. I told you my conclusions in declaratory sentences

You?
You read my posts. only to the point of denying them. There is no evidence you thought - even for a moment - about the point.

As for conclusions, you started with the same ones you are using now
"Cool story, if a bit stale."
Oldbear83
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Osodecentx said:

Oldbear83 said:

Osodecentx said:

Oldbear83 said:

If you refuse to look, it doesn't matter what you are shown.
I read everyone of your links. I told you my conclusions in declaratory sentences

You?
You read my posts. only to the point of denying them. There is no evidence you thought - even for a moment - about the point.

As for conclusions, you started with the same ones you are using now
"Cool story, if a bit stale."

As always, you use my words out of context, because you have none of your own which would serve.
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Cobretti
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Biden spotted in Nantucket shopping indoors without a mask despite sign mandating them

Osodecentx
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Oldbear83 said:

Osodecentx said:

Oldbear83 said:

Osodecentx said:

Oldbear83 said:

If you refuse to look, it doesn't matter what you are shown.
I read everyone of your links. I told you my conclusions in declaratory sentences

You?
You read my posts. only to the point of denying them. There is no evidence you thought - even for a moment - about the point.

As for conclusions, you started with the same ones you are using now
"Cool story, if a bit stale."

As always, you use my words out of context, because you have none of your own which would serve.
"There is no evidence you thought - even for a moment - about the point."
Oldbear83
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** sigh **

That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Osodecentx
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Oldbear83 said:

** sigh **
"There's nothing wrong with staying away while you get your emotions in check."
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whiterock said:

https://www.westernjournal.com/johns-hopkins-doc-says-natural-immunity-27-times-effective-vaccine/

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7044e1.htm
Oldbear83
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clubhi said:

whiterock said:

https://www.westernjournal.com/johns-hopkins-doc-says-natural-immunity-27-times-effective-vaccine/

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7044e1.htm
Thanks for putting the train back on the tracks.
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Osodecentx
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Oldbear83 said:

clubhi said:

whiterock said:

https://www.westernjournal.com/johns-hopkins-doc-says-natural-immunity-27-times-effective-vaccine/

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7044e1.htm
Thanks for putting the train back on the tracks.
"It's funny how some folks want to shut down discussion, allowing only their side be heard"
whiterock
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Oldbear83 said:

clubhi said:

whiterock said:

https://www.westernjournal.com/johns-hopkins-doc-says-natural-immunity-27-times-effective-vaccine/

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7044e1.htm
Thanks for putting the train back on the tracks.


From link: " Laboratory-confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection was identified among 324 (5.1%) of 6,328 fully vaccinated persons and among 89 of 1,020 (8.7%) unvaccinated, previously infected persons. A higher proportion of previously infected than vaccinated patients were aged 1849 years (31% versus 9%), Black (10% versus 7%), and Hispanic (19% versus 12%)."

Internal numbers inconsistent with overall conclusion.
Study conclusions at odds with dozens of others around the world.
In other words, link is the outlier.
whiterock
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34836309/

" Having vitamin D treatment decreased the mortality rate by 2.14 times."

There is a long list of therapeutics which benefit patients. Why isn't Fauci talking about it?

Doc Holliday
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whiterock said:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34836309/

" Having vitamin D treatment decreased the mortality rate by 2.14 times."

There is a long list of therapeutics which benefit patients. Why isn't Fauci talking about it?


To maintain narrative control that drives Profit toward vax.
Osodecentx
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whiterock said:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34836309/

" Having vitamin D treatment decreased the mortality rate by 2.14 times."

There is a long list of therapeutics which benefit patients. Why isn't Fauci talking about it?

Some here would say Fauci isn't talking about therapeutics because pharma has contributed to the CDC Foundation.

Therapeutics are a valuable tool to everyone, the vaxxed and unvaxxed.
Oldbear83
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whiterock said:

Oldbear83 said:

clubhi said:

whiterock said:

https://www.westernjournal.com/johns-hopkins-doc-says-natural-immunity-27-times-effective-vaccine/

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7044e1.htm
Thanks for putting the train back on the tracks.


From link: " Laboratory-confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection was identified among 324 (5.1%) of 6,328 fully vaccinated persons and among 89 of 1,020 (8.7%) unvaccinated, previously infected persons. A higher proportion of previously infected than vaccinated patients were aged 1849 years (31% versus 9%), Black (10% versus 7%), and Hispanic (19% versus 12%)."

Internal numbers inconsistent with overall conclusion.
Study conclusions at odds with dozens of others around the world.
In other words, link is the outlier.
I don't agree with clubhi's point, but I do appreciate him getting us back on topic.
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quash
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The well is deep.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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D. C. Bear
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whiterock said:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34836309/

" Having vitamin D treatment decreased the mortality rate by 2.14 times."

There is a long list of therapeutics which benefit patients. Why isn't Fauci talking about it?




My doctor certainly had me on vitamin D. B12, too as well as C and zinc.
Doc Holliday
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Wrecks Quan Dough
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Doc Holliday said:


It is comedic our leader's unthinking obeisance to the silliness that comes from our public health experts. Is there anything that comes out of this administration that is not 100% bull hockey?
Cobretti
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quash
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Begin anywhere, Ben.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
Wrecks Quan Dough
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quash said:

Cobretti said:




Begin anywhere, Ben.



Covid measures spike unemployment, damaged the supply chain, led to shortages and inflation.
quash
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Amal Shuq-Up said:

quash said:

Cobretti said:




Begin anywhere, Ben.



Covid measures spike unemployment, damaged the supply chain, led to shortages and inflation.


Early on there was concern that lost workers would impact the supply chain. Some day we'll get the numbers on whether the illness or the cure had the larger impact.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
Doc Holliday
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quash said:

Amal Shuq-Up said:

quash said:

Cobretti said:




Begin anywhere, Ben.



Covid measures spike unemployment, damaged the supply chain, led to shortages and inflation.


Early on there was concern that lost workers would impact the supply chain. Some day we'll get the numbers on whether the illness or the cure had the larger impact.

Most people are overwhelmingly asymptomatic. The cure had a much larger impact.
Wrecks Quan Dough
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quash said:

Amal Shuq-Up said:

quash said:

Cobretti said:




Begin anywhere, Ben.



Covid measures spike unemployment, damaged the supply chain, led to shortages and inflation.


Early on there was concern that lost workers would impact the supply chain. Some day we'll get the numbers on whether the illness or the cure had the larger impact.

I think we can see what is happening now and draw a pretty good conclusion.
 
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