Why?Cobretti said:The Biden administration may continue to require Americans to wear masks on public transportation, airplanes and in airports after the mandate runs out next week. pic.twitter.com/UQtS7LbqHF
— Forbes (@Forbes) April 12, 2022
Masks are Never Coming Off
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We've been taking our shoes off for 20 years now because one guy tried (unsuccessfully) to detonate a shoe bomb on a plane.RMF5630 said:Why?Cobretti said:The Biden administration may continue to require Americans to wear masks on public transportation, airplanes and in airports after the mandate runs out next week. pic.twitter.com/UQtS7LbqHF
— Forbes (@Forbes) April 12, 2022
Now, there are various ways in which you can now buy your way out of this, so of course I do. All of these things have a classist streak running through them, including the masking.
The idea that vaccines didn't prevent infection and transmission, we were somehow misled, and the goalposts were moved. We were told they were highly effective at preventing infection and transmission because it was true -- probably 65-80% effective against existing strains at the time. Their effectiveness decreased somewhat with Delta and more so with Omicron, and the scientific research and public messaging reflected that.RMF5630 said:What isn't accurate? Just curious?Sam Lowry said:I would justify accurate information as a starting point for policy debate. A lot of people are very afraid of it, but the republic would survive.Doc Holliday said:I'm afraid of what you and others would justify if there was a virus with a 75% chance of survivability.Sam Lowry said:
Very little of what's being said matters, because almost all of it is based on a false premise.
I also don't think you realize how fragile our republic is.
Relinquishing freedom over fear and safety often becomes permanent. Fear is how we fall.
Meanwhile the anti-vaxxers were busy, hysterically misinterpreting every word from the CDC and every twitch of Dr. Fauci's eyebrow, creating a whole parallel narrative in which the government finally "admitted" the vaccines weren't real and didn't work. The social media myths were worlds removed from our actual understanding of the vaccine and its effectiveness. Now that's supposedly the fault of the government, the dreaded "experts," and everyone else who was ignored for two years.
The topper is all of the melting down from snowflakes who don't like being told they don't care about others -- even though they went out of their way to tell everyone who would listen exactly that. Now they want to justify it with revisionist history about how vaccines never protected anyone else anyway. Pathetic.
I buy my way out too. But you also have to take extra steps and give up privacy to do it. If you are not willing to do that, you can't even buy your way out. I find it is the willingness to take the extra steps that is the difference in being able to do something, more than money.Robert Wilson said:We've been taking our shoes off for 20 years now because one guy tried (unsuccessfully) to detonate a shoe bomb on a plane.RMF5630 said:Why?Cobretti said:The Biden administration may continue to require Americans to wear masks on public transportation, airplanes and in airports after the mandate runs out next week. pic.twitter.com/UQtS7LbqHF
— Forbes (@Forbes) April 12, 2022
Now, there are various ways in which you can now buy your way out of this, so of course I do. All of these things have a classist streak running through them, including the masking.
One advantage to decentralized government is that one person or group cannot easily control the whole. If Congress were only allowed to own homes outside DC and stay in dorm-type lodging while in session, that would be a help.Doc Holliday said:Government regulation is necessary, but it's carried out by people who fleece it. The problem is there's not enough regulation and accountability placed on regulators. That's where our republic is falling apart.Oldbear83 said:I think we lost the Republic in 1861. We've been a Federation with a growing Central control ever since.Doc Holliday said:I'm afraid of what you and others would justify if there was a virus with a 75% chance of survivability.Sam Lowry said:
Very little of what's being said matters, because almost all of it is based on a false premise.
I also don't think you realize how fragile our republic is.
Thomas Jefferson has already been canceled, Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Paine are banned from most school lessons, and George Washington's actual life has been replaced with a fiction less real than a Disney film.
What's sad is that today's American would not pay attention to Frederick Douglass or Robert Morris, either. No one who established the United States would be woke enough for the mobaratti.
We're a country of sellouts. Money talks. Cash is king.
I'm not opposed to centralized government, or even mass welfare in its theory. We're just so damn arrogant that we think our society is largely made up of good and honest people and it's just not true. We can't trust the people running government with the power we give them until we hold them accountable.
Make Lobbying a felony would help as well.
I do think we have a large number of good and reasonable people. But we desperately need term limits for all Federal offices, and pay should be a lot close to what regular people make.
While I am wishing for what will never happen, I'd like to have my 35-year-old body again and a do-over on every major financial decision I made since 1970.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
The Lobbying is a big one. In the Engineering world we have moved from strategies to fix problems to product line solutions that look for problems. Marketing is playing too big a role in the future. We are getting product lines stuffed down our throats.Oldbear83 said:One advantage to decentralized government is that one person or group cannot easily control the whole. If Congress were only allowed to own homes outside DC and stay in dorm-type lodging while in session, that would be a help.Doc Holliday said:Government regulation is necessary, but it's carried out by people who fleece it. The problem is there's not enough regulation and accountability placed on regulators. That's where our republic is falling apart.Oldbear83 said:I think we lost the Republic in 1861. We've been a Federation with a growing Central control ever since.Doc Holliday said:I'm afraid of what you and others would justify if there was a virus with a 75% chance of survivability.Sam Lowry said:
Very little of what's being said matters, because almost all of it is based on a false premise.
I also don't think you realize how fragile our republic is.
Thomas Jefferson has already been canceled, Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Paine are banned from most school lessons, and George Washington's actual life has been replaced with a fiction less real than a Disney film.
What's sad is that today's American would not pay attention to Frederick Douglass or Robert Morris, either. No one who established the United States would be woke enough for the mobaratti.
We're a country of sellouts. Money talks. Cash is king.
I'm not opposed to centralized government, or even mass welfare in its theory. We're just so damn arrogant that we think our society is largely made up of good and honest people and it's just not true. We can't trust the people running government with the power we give them until we hold them accountable.
Make Lobbying a felony would help as well.
I do think we have a large number of good and reasonable people. But we desperately need term limits for all Federal offices, and pay should be a lot close to what regular people make.
While I am wishing for what will never happen, I'd like to have my 35-year-old body again and a do-over on every major financial decision I made since 1970.
Says the pivot man for the Covid kool aid circle jerkOsodecentx said:He speaks for the sheepleSam Lowry said:You are making even less sense than usual today.Rawhide said:I'll show no respect to anyone that has zero respect for anyone else.quash said:Rawhide said:funny, coming from the guy that has spent the last 2 years locking himself behind his walls because on the other side, it's a Covid apocalypse of epic proportions.Sam Lowry said:You keep banging your head and wondering why the walls are conspiring against you.Rawhide said:true storySam Lowry said:Cool story.Rawhide said:Except that they were calling it a pandemic of the unvaccinated and if you didn't get one, then you're a murderer. Really, saw them say it on CNN.Sam Lowry said:Correct.RMF5630 said:no one ever said it would prevent every one from getting it.ATL Bear said:Vaxxed and boosted NYC mayor just tested positive for COVID. Also followed strict mask protocols.Jack Bauer said:The Democrats' Covid policies in a nutshell. Disgusting child abuse. https://t.co/XS73tzIYGq
— Libs of Tik Tok (@libsoftiktok) April 10, 2022
Also recall that our resident idiots tried to insinuate (or even flat out say) that if you didn't get vaxxed, you were selfish and didn't care about other people because you'd be spreading it all around. Then lo and behold, come to find out that even the vaxxed were spreading it. So the narrative had to quickly change to "well, you need to get vaxxed because it will keep out of the hospital"
Are you trying to deny that the left was saying it was a pandemic of the unvaccinated, that the maskless were murderers, that liberals accused others of being selfish and not caring about other lives because they didn't get vaxxed?
Or are you just being a tard again?
Some people have immune deficiency issues. Show a little respect for differences.
If someone has a disability or a condition or a whatever, that doesn't give them the right to be a dick and dish it out without having it dished right back at them.
Sorry, but Sam has shown himself to be one of the most dishonest and biggest trolls on this website. When he can man up, admit when he's wrong when faced with proof and generally stop being ******, then and only then does he deserve a modicum of respect.
In the meantime, he can cower in the corner with his hazmat suit on over covid - until the next sighting of haley's comet, unless that's too soon for him.
So you deny that anyone called it a pandemic of the unvaccinated?Sam Lowry said:
Very little of what's being said matters, because almost all of it is based on a false premise.
More inconvenient than showing an ID to cast a voteRMF5630 said:Yes! Masks for no reason are counterproductive, inconvenient, and restrictive. There is no way masks can become the new normal.Shippou said:Who cares? Is it that much of an inconvenience?Doc Holliday said:
Will masks become the 'new normal' even after the pandemic has passed? Some Americans say soQuote:
"I think we do need a new culture of masks, at least any time not feeling well, and I think masks are in and handshakes out for the indefinite future," said Dr. Tom Frieden, the former director of the C.D.C. during the Obama Administration and the president of global health initiative Resolve to Save Lives.
Yep, coming soon... pay not to wear a maskRobert Wilson said:We've been taking our shoes off for 20 years now because one guy tried (unsuccessfully) to detonate a shoe bomb on a plane.RMF5630 said:Why?Cobretti said:The Biden administration may continue to require Americans to wear masks on public transportation, airplanes and in airports after the mandate runs out next week. pic.twitter.com/UQtS7LbqHF
— Forbes (@Forbes) April 12, 2022
Now, there are various ways in which you can now buy your way out of this, so of course I do. All of these things have a classist streak running through them, including the masking.
RMF5630 said:The Lobbying is a big one. In the Engineering world we have moved from strategies to fix problems to product line solutions that look for problems. Marketing is playing too big a role in the future. We are getting product lines stuffed down our throats.Oldbear83 said:One advantage to decentralized government is that one person or group cannot easily control the whole. If Congress were only allowed to own homes outside DC and stay in dorm-type lodging while in session, that would be a help.Doc Holliday said:Government regulation is necessary, but it's carried out by people who fleece it. The problem is there's not enough regulation and accountability placed on regulators. That's where our republic is falling apart.Oldbear83 said:I think we lost the Republic in 1861. We've been a Federation with a growing Central control ever since.Doc Holliday said:I'm afraid of what you and others would justify if there was a virus with a 75% chance of survivability.Sam Lowry said:
Very little of what's being said matters, because almost all of it is based on a false premise.
I also don't think you realize how fragile our republic is.
Thomas Jefferson has already been canceled, Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Paine are banned from most school lessons, and George Washington's actual life has been replaced with a fiction less real than a Disney film.
What's sad is that today's American would not pay attention to Frederick Douglass or Robert Morris, either. No one who established the United States would be woke enough for the mobaratti.
We're a country of sellouts. Money talks. Cash is king.
I'm not opposed to centralized government, or even mass welfare in its theory. We're just so damn arrogant that we think our society is largely made up of good and honest people and it's just not true. We can't trust the people running government with the power we give them until we hold them accountable.
Make Lobbying a felony would help as well.
I do think we have a large number of good and reasonable people. But we desperately need term limits for all Federal offices, and pay should be a lot close to what regular people make.
While I am wishing for what will never happen, I'd like to have my 35-year-old body again and a do-over on every major financial decision I made since 1970.
Stop making lobbyists the bogeyman. They are consumers sent to purchase a product.
If the product were devalued the demand would drop. Tax breaks, regulatory protection, these are the products. Ban them, not lobbyists.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
I can't disagree with thisquash said:RMF5630 said:The Lobbying is a big one. In the Engineering world we have moved from strategies to fix problems to product line solutions that look for problems. Marketing is playing too big a role in the future. We are getting product lines stuffed down our throats.Oldbear83 said:One advantage to decentralized government is that one person or group cannot easily control the whole. If Congress were only allowed to own homes outside DC and stay in dorm-type lodging while in session, that would be a help.Doc Holliday said:Government regulation is necessary, but it's carried out by people who fleece it. The problem is there's not enough regulation and accountability placed on regulators. That's where our republic is falling apart.Oldbear83 said:I think we lost the Republic in 1861. We've been a Federation with a growing Central control ever since.Doc Holliday said:I'm afraid of what you and others would justify if there was a virus with a 75% chance of survivability.Sam Lowry said:
Very little of what's being said matters, because almost all of it is based on a false premise.
I also don't think you realize how fragile our republic is.
Thomas Jefferson has already been canceled, Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Paine are banned from most school lessons, and George Washington's actual life has been replaced with a fiction less real than a Disney film.
What's sad is that today's American would not pay attention to Frederick Douglass or Robert Morris, either. No one who established the United States would be woke enough for the mobaratti.
We're a country of sellouts. Money talks. Cash is king.
I'm not opposed to centralized government, or even mass welfare in its theory. We're just so damn arrogant that we think our society is largely made up of good and honest people and it's just not true. We can't trust the people running government with the power we give them until we hold them accountable.
Make Lobbying a felony would help as well.
I do think we have a large number of good and reasonable people. But we desperately need term limits for all Federal offices, and pay should be a lot close to what regular people make.
While I am wishing for what will never happen, I'd like to have my 35-year-old body again and a do-over on every major financial decision I made since 1970.
Stop making lobbyists the bogeyman. They are consumers sent to purchase a product.
If the product were devalued the demand would drop. Tax breaks, regulatory protection, these are the products. Ban them, not lobbyists.
When a lobbyist or marketer is selling a product line as a solution, no matter what the problem. It is a big issue. We are being guided by product lines for future tech decisions, not necessarily the best solution. The tactic is to swamp the market and force that to be the solution. Perfect example is electric vehicles versus hydrogen. Electric won because of marketing and lobbyist. Every comparison I have seen hydrogen comes out on top, yet here we are...quash said:RMF5630 said:The Lobbying is a big one. In the Engineering world we have moved from strategies to fix problems to product line solutions that look for problems. Marketing is playing too big a role in the future. We are getting product lines stuffed down our throats.Oldbear83 said:One advantage to decentralized government is that one person or group cannot easily control the whole. If Congress were only allowed to own homes outside DC and stay in dorm-type lodging while in session, that would be a help.Doc Holliday said:Government regulation is necessary, but it's carried out by people who fleece it. The problem is there's not enough regulation and accountability placed on regulators. That's where our republic is falling apart.Oldbear83 said:I think we lost the Republic in 1861. We've been a Federation with a growing Central control ever since.Doc Holliday said:I'm afraid of what you and others would justify if there was a virus with a 75% chance of survivability.Sam Lowry said:
Very little of what's being said matters, because almost all of it is based on a false premise.
I also don't think you realize how fragile our republic is.
Thomas Jefferson has already been canceled, Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Paine are banned from most school lessons, and George Washington's actual life has been replaced with a fiction less real than a Disney film.
What's sad is that today's American would not pay attention to Frederick Douglass or Robert Morris, either. No one who established the United States would be woke enough for the mobaratti.
We're a country of sellouts. Money talks. Cash is king.
I'm not opposed to centralized government, or even mass welfare in its theory. We're just so damn arrogant that we think our society is largely made up of good and honest people and it's just not true. We can't trust the people running government with the power we give them until we hold them accountable.
Make Lobbying a felony would help as well.
I do think we have a large number of good and reasonable people. But we desperately need term limits for all Federal offices, and pay should be a lot close to what regular people make.
While I am wishing for what will never happen, I'd like to have my 35-year-old body again and a do-over on every major financial decision I made since 1970.
Stop making lobbyists the bogeyman. They are consumers sent to purchase a product.
If the product were devalued the demand would drop. Tax breaks, regulatory protection, these are the products. Ban them, not lobbyists.
Most lobbying is by banks, not directly corporations.quash said:RMF5630 said:The Lobbying is a big one. In the Engineering world we have moved from strategies to fix problems to product line solutions that look for problems. Marketing is playing too big a role in the future. We are getting product lines stuffed down our throats.Oldbear83 said:One advantage to decentralized government is that one person or group cannot easily control the whole. If Congress were only allowed to own homes outside DC and stay in dorm-type lodging while in session, that would be a help.Doc Holliday said:Government regulation is necessary, but it's carried out by people who fleece it. The problem is there's not enough regulation and accountability placed on regulators. That's where our republic is falling apart.Oldbear83 said:I think we lost the Republic in 1861. We've been a Federation with a growing Central control ever since.Doc Holliday said:I'm afraid of what you and others would justify if there was a virus with a 75% chance of survivability.Sam Lowry said:
Very little of what's being said matters, because almost all of it is based on a false premise.
I also don't think you realize how fragile our republic is.
Thomas Jefferson has already been canceled, Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Paine are banned from most school lessons, and George Washington's actual life has been replaced with a fiction less real than a Disney film.
What's sad is that today's American would not pay attention to Frederick Douglass or Robert Morris, either. No one who established the United States would be woke enough for the mobaratti.
We're a country of sellouts. Money talks. Cash is king.
I'm not opposed to centralized government, or even mass welfare in its theory. We're just so damn arrogant that we think our society is largely made up of good and honest people and it's just not true. We can't trust the people running government with the power we give them until we hold them accountable.
Make Lobbying a felony would help as well.
I do think we have a large number of good and reasonable people. But we desperately need term limits for all Federal offices, and pay should be a lot close to what regular people make.
While I am wishing for what will never happen, I'd like to have my 35-year-old body again and a do-over on every major financial decision I made since 1970.
Stop making lobbyists the bogeyman. They are consumers sent to purchase a product.
If the product were devalued the demand would drop. Tax breaks, regulatory protection, these are the products. Ban them, not lobbyists.
The issue is regulations crafted to boost market share for the largest companies.
Ex. Steep ACA regulations designed to bankrupt the smaller insurance providers: what happened was consolidation to the largest providers or acquisition of new market share because providers went bankrupt. That was done on purpose.
Now imagine this in every major industry, because that's exactly what's happening.
Baaahhh spake the sheepleRawhide said:Says the pivot man for the Covid kool aid circle jerkOsodecentx said:He speaks for the sheepleSam Lowry said:You are making even less sense than usual today.Rawhide said:I'll show no respect to anyone that has zero respect for anyone else.quash said:Rawhide said:funny, coming from the guy that has spent the last 2 years locking himself behind his walls because on the other side, it's a Covid apocalypse of epic proportions.Sam Lowry said:You keep banging your head and wondering why the walls are conspiring against you.Rawhide said:true storySam Lowry said:Cool story.Rawhide said:Except that they were calling it a pandemic of the unvaccinated and if you didn't get one, then you're a murderer. Really, saw them say it on CNN.Sam Lowry said:Correct.RMF5630 said:no one ever said it would prevent every one from getting it.ATL Bear said:Vaxxed and boosted NYC mayor just tested positive for COVID. Also followed strict mask protocols.Jack Bauer said:The Democrats' Covid policies in a nutshell. Disgusting child abuse. https://t.co/XS73tzIYGq
— Libs of Tik Tok (@libsoftiktok) April 10, 2022
Also recall that our resident idiots tried to insinuate (or even flat out say) that if you didn't get vaxxed, you were selfish and didn't care about other people because you'd be spreading it all around. Then lo and behold, come to find out that even the vaxxed were spreading it. So the narrative had to quickly change to "well, you need to get vaxxed because it will keep out of the hospital"
Are you trying to deny that the left was saying it was a pandemic of the unvaccinated, that the maskless were murderers, that liberals accused others of being selfish and not caring about other lives because they didn't get vaxxed?
Or are you just being a tard again?
Some people have immune deficiency issues. Show a little respect for differences.
If someone has a disability or a condition or a whatever, that doesn't give them the right to be a dick and dish it out without having it dished right back at them.
Sorry, but Sam has shown himself to be one of the most dishonest and biggest trolls on this website. When he can man up, admit when he's wrong when faced with proof and generally stop being ******, then and only then does he deserve a modicum of respect.
In the meantime, he can cower in the corner with his hazmat suit on over covid - until the next sighting of haley's comet, unless that's too soon for him.
You were represented by lobbyists in former jobs who wanted to maintain a monopoly (Reliant?)Oldbear83 said:One advantage to decentralized government is that one person or group cannot easily control the whole. If Congress were only allowed to own homes outside DC and stay in dorm-type lodging while in session, that would be a help.Doc Holliday said:Government regulation is necessary, but it's carried out by people who fleece it. The problem is there's not enough regulation and accountability placed on regulators. That's where our republic is falling apart.Oldbear83 said:I think we lost the Republic in 1861. We've been a Federation with a growing Central control ever since.Doc Holliday said:I'm afraid of what you and others would justify if there was a virus with a 75% chance of survivability.Sam Lowry said:
Very little of what's being said matters, because almost all of it is based on a false premise.
I also don't think you realize how fragile our republic is.
Thomas Jefferson has already been canceled, Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Paine are banned from most school lessons, and George Washington's actual life has been replaced with a fiction less real than a Disney film.
What's sad is that today's American would not pay attention to Frederick Douglass or Robert Morris, either. No one who established the United States would be woke enough for the mobaratti.
We're a country of sellouts. Money talks. Cash is king.
I'm not opposed to centralized government, or even mass welfare in its theory. We're just so damn arrogant that we think our society is largely made up of good and honest people and it's just not true. We can't trust the people running government with the power we give them until we hold them accountable.
Make Lobbying a felony would help as well.
I do think we have a large number of good and reasonable people. But we desperately need term limits for all Federal offices, and pay should be a lot close to what regular people make.
While I am wishing for what will never happen, I'd like to have my 35-year-old body again and a do-over on every major financial decision I made since 1970.
I bet 99% of the posters on the board are represented by lobbyists
I'd be hard pressed to identify the one percent.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
Osodecentx said:You were represented by lobbyists in former jobs who wanted to maintain a monopoly (Reliant?)Oldbear83 said:One advantage to decentralized government is that one person or group cannot easily control the whole. If Congress were only allowed to own homes outside DC and stay in dorm-type lodging while in session, that would be a help.Doc Holliday said:Government regulation is necessary, but it's carried out by people who fleece it. The problem is there's not enough regulation and accountability placed on regulators. That's where our republic is falling apart.Oldbear83 said:I think we lost the Republic in 1861. We've been a Federation with a growing Central control ever since.Doc Holliday said:I'm afraid of what you and others would justify if there was a virus with a 75% chance of survivability.Sam Lowry said:
Very little of what's being said matters, because almost all of it is based on a false premise.
I also don't think you realize how fragile our republic is.
Thomas Jefferson has already been canceled, Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Paine are banned from most school lessons, and George Washington's actual life has been replaced with a fiction less real than a Disney film.
What's sad is that today's American would not pay attention to Frederick Douglass or Robert Morris, either. No one who established the United States would be woke enough for the mobaratti.
We're a country of sellouts. Money talks. Cash is king.
I'm not opposed to centralized government, or even mass welfare in its theory. We're just so damn arrogant that we think our society is largely made up of good and honest people and it's just not true. We can't trust the people running government with the power we give them until we hold them accountable.
Make Lobbying a felony would help as well.
I do think we have a large number of good and reasonable people. But we desperately need term limits for all Federal offices, and pay should be a lot close to what regular people make.
While I am wishing for what will never happen, I'd like to have my 35-year-old body again and a do-over on every major financial decision I made since 1970.
I bet 99% of the posters on the board are represented by lobbyists
That is how decisions are being made. Who can hire the most powerful lobby.
My employer was represented by lobbyists, not me. Rather an important difference.Osodecentx said:You were represented by lobbyists in former jobs who wanted to maintain a monopoly (Reliant?)Oldbear83 said:One advantage to decentralized government is that one person or group cannot easily control the whole. If Congress were only allowed to own homes outside DC and stay in dorm-type lodging while in session, that would be a help.Doc Holliday said:Government regulation is necessary, but it's carried out by people who fleece it. The problem is there's not enough regulation and accountability placed on regulators. That's where our republic is falling apart.Oldbear83 said:I think we lost the Republic in 1861. We've been a Federation with a growing Central control ever since.Doc Holliday said:I'm afraid of what you and others would justify if there was a virus with a 75% chance of survivability.Sam Lowry said:
Very little of what's being said matters, because almost all of it is based on a false premise.
I also don't think you realize how fragile our republic is.
Thomas Jefferson has already been canceled, Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Paine are banned from most school lessons, and George Washington's actual life has been replaced with a fiction less real than a Disney film.
What's sad is that today's American would not pay attention to Frederick Douglass or Robert Morris, either. No one who established the United States would be woke enough for the mobaratti.
We're a country of sellouts. Money talks. Cash is king.
I'm not opposed to centralized government, or even mass welfare in its theory. We're just so damn arrogant that we think our society is largely made up of good and honest people and it's just not true. We can't trust the people running government with the power we give them until we hold them accountable.
Make Lobbying a felony would help as well.
I do think we have a large number of good and reasonable people. But we desperately need term limits for all Federal offices, and pay should be a lot close to what regular people make.
While I am wishing for what will never happen, I'd like to have my 35-year-old body again and a do-over on every major financial decision I made since 1970.
I bet 99% of the posters on the board are represented by lobbyists
Back in 1976, my dad was able to walk in and visit Senator John Tower in his office. What do you suppose would happen if a regular guy like you or me tried to visit our Representative or Senator?
The world had changed, and not for the better.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Me too, but I was trying to be generousquash said:
I'd be hard pressed to identify the one percent.
You worked for the company and cashed the check from a monopolist. They hired a multiple lobbyists trying to maintain their monopoly.Oldbear83 said:My employer was represented by lobbyists, not me. Rather an important difference.Osodecentx said:You were represented by lobbyists in former jobs who wanted to maintain a monopoly (Reliant?)Oldbear83 said:One advantage to decentralized government is that one person or group cannot easily control the whole. If Congress were only allowed to own homes outside DC and stay in dorm-type lodging while in session, that would be a help.Doc Holliday said:Government regulation is necessary, but it's carried out by people who fleece it. The problem is there's not enough regulation and accountability placed on regulators. That's where our republic is falling apart.Oldbear83 said:I think we lost the Republic in 1861. We've been a Federation with a growing Central control ever since.Doc Holliday said:I'm afraid of what you and others would justify if there was a virus with a 75% chance of survivability.Sam Lowry said:
Very little of what's being said matters, because almost all of it is based on a false premise.
I also don't think you realize how fragile our republic is.
Thomas Jefferson has already been canceled, Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Paine are banned from most school lessons, and George Washington's actual life has been replaced with a fiction less real than a Disney film.
What's sad is that today's American would not pay attention to Frederick Douglass or Robert Morris, either. No one who established the United States would be woke enough for the mobaratti.
We're a country of sellouts. Money talks. Cash is king.
I'm not opposed to centralized government, or even mass welfare in its theory. We're just so damn arrogant that we think our society is largely made up of good and honest people and it's just not true. We can't trust the people running government with the power we give them until we hold them accountable.
Make Lobbying a felony would help as well.
I do think we have a large number of good and reasonable people. But we desperately need term limits for all Federal offices, and pay should be a lot close to what regular people make.
While I am wishing for what will never happen, I'd like to have my 35-year-old body again and a do-over on every major financial decision I made since 1970.
I bet 99% of the posters on the board are represented by lobbyists
Back in 1976, my dad was able to walk in and visit Senator John Tower in his office. What do you suppose would happen if a regular guy like you or me tried to visit our Representative or Senator?
The world had changed, and not for the better.
Now that's BS. Reliant never had a monopoly, and they were not even the largest company in Texas (that would be TXU).Osodecentx said:You worked for the company and cashed the check from a monopolist. They hired a multiple lobbyists trying to maintain their monopoly.Oldbear83 said:My employer was represented by lobbyists, not me. Rather an important difference.Osodecentx said:You were represented by lobbyists in former jobs who wanted to maintain a monopoly (Reliant?)Oldbear83 said:One advantage to decentralized government is that one person or group cannot easily control the whole. If Congress were only allowed to own homes outside DC and stay in dorm-type lodging while in session, that would be a help.Doc Holliday said:Government regulation is necessary, but it's carried out by people who fleece it. The problem is there's not enough regulation and accountability placed on regulators. That's where our republic is falling apart.Oldbear83 said:I think we lost the Republic in 1861. We've been a Federation with a growing Central control ever since.Doc Holliday said:I'm afraid of what you and others would justify if there was a virus with a 75% chance of survivability.Sam Lowry said:
Very little of what's being said matters, because almost all of it is based on a false premise.
I also don't think you realize how fragile our republic is.
Thomas Jefferson has already been canceled, Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Paine are banned from most school lessons, and George Washington's actual life has been replaced with a fiction less real than a Disney film.
What's sad is that today's American would not pay attention to Frederick Douglass or Robert Morris, either. No one who established the United States would be woke enough for the mobaratti.
We're a country of sellouts. Money talks. Cash is king.
I'm not opposed to centralized government, or even mass welfare in its theory. We're just so damn arrogant that we think our society is largely made up of good and honest people and it's just not true. We can't trust the people running government with the power we give them until we hold them accountable.
Make Lobbying a felony would help as well.
I do think we have a large number of good and reasonable people. But we desperately need term limits for all Federal offices, and pay should be a lot close to what regular people make.
While I am wishing for what will never happen, I'd like to have my 35-year-old body again and a do-over on every major financial decision I made since 1970.
I bet 99% of the posters on the board are represented by lobbyists
Back in 1976, my dad was able to walk in and visit Senator John Tower in his office. What do you suppose would happen if a regular guy like you or me tried to visit our Representative or Senator?
The world had changed, and not for the better.
My checks were guilt-free. Certainly more ethical than the work of most elected officials in my lifetime.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Reliant was Houston Industries and became Reliant. Your checks should have been guilt free even though you were represented by a team of lobbyists because there is nothing wrong with it. Reliant and TXU had the same lobbyists (AECT) plus their own lobbyistsOldbear83 said:Now that's BS. Reliant never had a monopoly, and they were not even the largest company in Texas (that would be TXU).Osodecentx said:You worked for the company and cashed the check from a monopolist. They hired a multiple lobbyists trying to maintain their monopoly.Oldbear83 said:My employer was represented by lobbyists, not me. Rather an important difference.Osodecentx said:You were represented by lobbyists in former jobs who wanted to maintain a monopoly (Reliant?)Oldbear83 said:One advantage to decentralized government is that one person or group cannot easily control the whole. If Congress were only allowed to own homes outside DC and stay in dorm-type lodging while in session, that would be a help.Doc Holliday said:Government regulation is necessary, but it's carried out by people who fleece it. The problem is there's not enough regulation and accountability placed on regulators. That's where our republic is falling apart.Oldbear83 said:I think we lost the Republic in 1861. We've been a Federation with a growing Central control ever since.Doc Holliday said:I'm afraid of what you and others would justify if there was a virus with a 75% chance of survivability.Sam Lowry said:
Very little of what's being said matters, because almost all of it is based on a false premise.
I also don't think you realize how fragile our republic is.
Thomas Jefferson has already been canceled, Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Paine are banned from most school lessons, and George Washington's actual life has been replaced with a fiction less real than a Disney film.
What's sad is that today's American would not pay attention to Frederick Douglass or Robert Morris, either. No one who established the United States would be woke enough for the mobaratti.
We're a country of sellouts. Money talks. Cash is king.
I'm not opposed to centralized government, or even mass welfare in its theory. We're just so damn arrogant that we think our society is largely made up of good and honest people and it's just not true. We can't trust the people running government with the power we give them until we hold them accountable.
Make Lobbying a felony would help as well.
I do think we have a large number of good and reasonable people. But we desperately need term limits for all Federal offices, and pay should be a lot close to what regular people make.
While I am wishing for what will never happen, I'd like to have my 35-year-old body again and a do-over on every major financial decision I made since 1970.
I bet 99% of the posters on the board are represented by lobbyists
Back in 1976, my dad was able to walk in and visit Senator John Tower in his office. What do you suppose would happen if a regular guy like you or me tried to visit our Representative or Senator?
The world had changed, and not for the better.
My checks were guilt-free. Certainly more ethical than the work of most elected officials in my lifetime.
Most elected officials I know are ethical.
"Ethically" accepting bribes from K-Street lobbyists for their preferred rules changes that get us hooked on opioids and terrible insurance.Osodecentx said:Reliant was Houston Industries and became Reliant. Your checks should have been guilt free even though you were represented by a team of lobbyists because there is nothing wrong with it. Reliant and TXU had the same lobbyists (AECT) plus their own lobbyistsOldbear83 said:Now that's BS. Reliant never had a monopoly, and they were not even the largest company in Texas (that would be TXU).Osodecentx said:You worked for the company and cashed the check from a monopolist. They hired a multiple lobbyists trying to maintain their monopoly.Oldbear83 said:My employer was represented by lobbyists, not me. Rather an important difference.Osodecentx said:You were represented by lobbyists in former jobs who wanted to maintain a monopoly (Reliant?)Oldbear83 said:One advantage to decentralized government is that one person or group cannot easily control the whole. If Congress were only allowed to own homes outside DC and stay in dorm-type lodging while in session, that would be a help.Doc Holliday said:Government regulation is necessary, but it's carried out by people who fleece it. The problem is there's not enough regulation and accountability placed on regulators. That's where our republic is falling apart.Oldbear83 said:I think we lost the Republic in 1861. We've been a Federation with a growing Central control ever since.Doc Holliday said:I'm afraid of what you and others would justify if there was a virus with a 75% chance of survivability.Sam Lowry said:
Very little of what's being said matters, because almost all of it is based on a false premise.
I also don't think you realize how fragile our republic is.
Thomas Jefferson has already been canceled, Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Paine are banned from most school lessons, and George Washington's actual life has been replaced with a fiction less real than a Disney film.
What's sad is that today's American would not pay attention to Frederick Douglass or Robert Morris, either. No one who established the United States would be woke enough for the mobaratti.
We're a country of sellouts. Money talks. Cash is king.
I'm not opposed to centralized government, or even mass welfare in its theory. We're just so damn arrogant that we think our society is largely made up of good and honest people and it's just not true. We can't trust the people running government with the power we give them until we hold them accountable.
Make Lobbying a felony would help as well.
I do think we have a large number of good and reasonable people. But we desperately need term limits for all Federal offices, and pay should be a lot close to what regular people make.
While I am wishing for what will never happen, I'd like to have my 35-year-old body again and a do-over on every major financial decision I made since 1970.
I bet 99% of the posters on the board are represented by lobbyists
Back in 1976, my dad was able to walk in and visit Senator John Tower in his office. What do you suppose would happen if a regular guy like you or me tried to visit our Representative or Senator?
The world had changed, and not for the better.
My checks were guilt-free. Certainly more ethical than the work of most elected officials in my lifetime.
Most elected officials I know are ethical.
Your socialism is their capitalism:
You are represented by lobbyists at the state and federal levelDoc Holliday said:"Ethically" accepting bribes from K-Street lobbyists for their preferred rules changes that get us hooked on opioids and terrible insurance.Osodecentx said:Reliant was Houston Industries and became Reliant. Your checks should have been guilt free even though you were represented by a team of lobbyists because there is nothing wrong with it. Reliant and TXU had the same lobbyists (AECT) plus their own lobbyistsOldbear83 said:Now that's BS. Reliant never had a monopoly, and they were not even the largest company in Texas (that would be TXU).Osodecentx said:You worked for the company and cashed the check from a monopolist. They hired a multiple lobbyists trying to maintain their monopoly.Oldbear83 said:My employer was represented by lobbyists, not me. Rather an important difference.Osodecentx said:You were represented by lobbyists in former jobs who wanted to maintain a monopoly (Reliant?)Oldbear83 said:One advantage to decentralized government is that one person or group cannot easily control the whole. If Congress were only allowed to own homes outside DC and stay in dorm-type lodging while in session, that would be a help.Doc Holliday said:Government regulation is necessary, but it's carried out by people who fleece it. The problem is there's not enough regulation and accountability placed on regulators. That's where our republic is falling apart.Oldbear83 said:I think we lost the Republic in 1861. We've been a Federation with a growing Central control ever since.Doc Holliday said:I'm afraid of what you and others would justify if there was a virus with a 75% chance of survivability.Sam Lowry said:
Very little of what's being said matters, because almost all of it is based on a false premise.
I also don't think you realize how fragile our republic is.
Thomas Jefferson has already been canceled, Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Paine are banned from most school lessons, and George Washington's actual life has been replaced with a fiction less real than a Disney film.
What's sad is that today's American would not pay attention to Frederick Douglass or Robert Morris, either. No one who established the United States would be woke enough for the mobaratti.
We're a country of sellouts. Money talks. Cash is king.
I'm not opposed to centralized government, or even mass welfare in its theory. We're just so damn arrogant that we think our society is largely made up of good and honest people and it's just not true. We can't trust the people running government with the power we give them until we hold them accountable.
Make Lobbying a felony would help as well.
I do think we have a large number of good and reasonable people. But we desperately need term limits for all Federal offices, and pay should be a lot close to what regular people make.
While I am wishing for what will never happen, I'd like to have my 35-year-old body again and a do-over on every major financial decision I made since 1970.
I bet 99% of the posters on the board are represented by lobbyists
Back in 1976, my dad was able to walk in and visit Senator John Tower in his office. What do you suppose would happen if a regular guy like you or me tried to visit our Representative or Senator?
The world had changed, and not for the better.
My checks were guilt-free. Certainly more ethical than the work of most elected officials in my lifetime.
Most elected officials I know are ethical.
Your socialism is their capitalism:
I'm also negatively effected by lobbyists who don't represent me.Osodecentx said:You are represented by lobbyists at the state and federal levelDoc Holliday said:"Ethically" accepting bribes from K-Street lobbyists for their preferred rules changes that get us hooked on opioids and terrible insurance.Osodecentx said:Reliant was Houston Industries and became Reliant. Your checks should have been guilt free even though you were represented by a team of lobbyists because there is nothing wrong with it. Reliant and TXU had the same lobbyists (AECT) plus their own lobbyistsOldbear83 said:Now that's BS. Reliant never had a monopoly, and they were not even the largest company in Texas (that would be TXU).Osodecentx said:You worked for the company and cashed the check from a monopolist. They hired a multiple lobbyists trying to maintain their monopoly.Oldbear83 said:My employer was represented by lobbyists, not me. Rather an important difference.Osodecentx said:You were represented by lobbyists in former jobs who wanted to maintain a monopoly (Reliant?)Oldbear83 said:One advantage to decentralized government is that one person or group cannot easily control the whole. If Congress were only allowed to own homes outside DC and stay in dorm-type lodging while in session, that would be a help.Doc Holliday said:Government regulation is necessary, but it's carried out by people who fleece it. The problem is there's not enough regulation and accountability placed on regulators. That's where our republic is falling apart.Oldbear83 said:I think we lost the Republic in 1861. We've been a Federation with a growing Central control ever since.Doc Holliday said:I'm afraid of what you and others would justify if there was a virus with a 75% chance of survivability.Sam Lowry said:
Very little of what's being said matters, because almost all of it is based on a false premise.
I also don't think you realize how fragile our republic is.
Thomas Jefferson has already been canceled, Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Paine are banned from most school lessons, and George Washington's actual life has been replaced with a fiction less real than a Disney film.
What's sad is that today's American would not pay attention to Frederick Douglass or Robert Morris, either. No one who established the United States would be woke enough for the mobaratti.
We're a country of sellouts. Money talks. Cash is king.
I'm not opposed to centralized government, or even mass welfare in its theory. We're just so damn arrogant that we think our society is largely made up of good and honest people and it's just not true. We can't trust the people running government with the power we give them until we hold them accountable.
Make Lobbying a felony would help as well.
I do think we have a large number of good and reasonable people. But we desperately need term limits for all Federal offices, and pay should be a lot close to what regular people make.
While I am wishing for what will never happen, I'd like to have my 35-year-old body again and a do-over on every major financial decision I made since 1970.
I bet 99% of the posters on the board are represented by lobbyists
Back in 1976, my dad was able to walk in and visit Senator John Tower in his office. What do you suppose would happen if a regular guy like you or me tried to visit our Representative or Senator?
The world had changed, and not for the better.
My checks were guilt-free. Certainly more ethical than the work of most elected officials in my lifetime.
Most elected officials I know are ethical.
Your socialism is their capitalism:
The majority of the nation is negatively effected by lobbying more than they benefit from it.
Possibly.Doc Holliday said:I'm also negatively effected by lobbyists who don't represent me.Osodecentx said:You are represented by lobbyists at the state and federal levelDoc Holliday said:"Ethically" accepting bribes from K-Street lobbyists for their preferred rules changes that get us hooked on opioids and terrible insurance.Osodecentx said:Reliant was Houston Industries and became Reliant. Your checks should have been guilt free even though you were represented by a team of lobbyists because there is nothing wrong with it. Reliant and TXU had the same lobbyists (AECT) plus their own lobbyistsOldbear83 said:Now that's BS. Reliant never had a monopoly, and they were not even the largest company in Texas (that would be TXU).Osodecentx said:You worked for the company and cashed the check from a monopolist. They hired a multiple lobbyists trying to maintain their monopoly.Oldbear83 said:My employer was represented by lobbyists, not me. Rather an important difference.Osodecentx said:You were represented by lobbyists in former jobs who wanted to maintain a monopoly (Reliant?)Oldbear83 said:One advantage to decentralized government is that one person or group cannot easily control the whole. If Congress were only allowed to own homes outside DC and stay in dorm-type lodging while in session, that would be a help.Doc Holliday said:Government regulation is necessary, but it's carried out by people who fleece it. The problem is there's not enough regulation and accountability placed on regulators. That's where our republic is falling apart.Oldbear83 said:I think we lost the Republic in 1861. We've been a Federation with a growing Central control ever since.Doc Holliday said:I'm afraid of what you and others would justify if there was a virus with a 75% chance of survivability.Sam Lowry said:
Very little of what's being said matters, because almost all of it is based on a false premise.
I also don't think you realize how fragile our republic is.
Thomas Jefferson has already been canceled, Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Paine are banned from most school lessons, and George Washington's actual life has been replaced with a fiction less real than a Disney film.
What's sad is that today's American would not pay attention to Frederick Douglass or Robert Morris, either. No one who established the United States would be woke enough for the mobaratti.
We're a country of sellouts. Money talks. Cash is king.
I'm not opposed to centralized government, or even mass welfare in its theory. We're just so damn arrogant that we think our society is largely made up of good and honest people and it's just not true. We can't trust the people running government with the power we give them until we hold them accountable.
Make Lobbying a felony would help as well.
I do think we have a large number of good and reasonable people. But we desperately need term limits for all Federal offices, and pay should be a lot close to what regular people make.
While I am wishing for what will never happen, I'd like to have my 35-year-old body again and a do-over on every major financial decision I made since 1970.
I bet 99% of the posters on the board are represented by lobbyists
Back in 1976, my dad was able to walk in and visit Senator John Tower in his office. What do you suppose would happen if a regular guy like you or me tried to visit our Representative or Senator?
The world had changed, and not for the better.
My checks were guilt-free. Certainly more ethical than the work of most elected officials in my lifetime.
Most elected officials I know are ethical.
Your socialism is their capitalism:
The majority of the nation is negatively effected by lobbying more than they benefit from it.
Why don't you fire the lobbyists who represent you? That would be a good example
Why don't we change the rules on lobbying instead?Osodecentx said:Possibly.Doc Holliday said:I'm also negatively effected by lobbyists who don't represent me.Osodecentx said:You are represented by lobbyists at the state and federal levelDoc Holliday said:"Ethically" accepting bribes from K-Street lobbyists for their preferred rules changes that get us hooked on opioids and terrible insurance.Osodecentx said:Reliant was Houston Industries and became Reliant. Your checks should have been guilt free even though you were represented by a team of lobbyists because there is nothing wrong with it. Reliant and TXU had the same lobbyists (AECT) plus their own lobbyistsOldbear83 said:Now that's BS. Reliant never had a monopoly, and they were not even the largest company in Texas (that would be TXU).Osodecentx said:You worked for the company and cashed the check from a monopolist. They hired a multiple lobbyists trying to maintain their monopoly.Oldbear83 said:My employer was represented by lobbyists, not me. Rather an important difference.Osodecentx said:You were represented by lobbyists in former jobs who wanted to maintain a monopoly (Reliant?)Oldbear83 said:One advantage to decentralized government is that one person or group cannot easily control the whole. If Congress were only allowed to own homes outside DC and stay in dorm-type lodging while in session, that would be a help.Doc Holliday said:Government regulation is necessary, but it's carried out by people who fleece it. The problem is there's not enough regulation and accountability placed on regulators. That's where our republic is falling apart.Oldbear83 said:I think we lost the Republic in 1861. We've been a Federation with a growing Central control ever since.Doc Holliday said:I'm afraid of what you and others would justify if there was a virus with a 75% chance of survivability.Sam Lowry said:
Very little of what's being said matters, because almost all of it is based on a false premise.
I also don't think you realize how fragile our republic is.
Thomas Jefferson has already been canceled, Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Paine are banned from most school lessons, and George Washington's actual life has been replaced with a fiction less real than a Disney film.
What's sad is that today's American would not pay attention to Frederick Douglass or Robert Morris, either. No one who established the United States would be woke enough for the mobaratti.
We're a country of sellouts. Money talks. Cash is king.
I'm not opposed to centralized government, or even mass welfare in its theory. We're just so damn arrogant that we think our society is largely made up of good and honest people and it's just not true. We can't trust the people running government with the power we give them until we hold them accountable.
Make Lobbying a felony would help as well.
I do think we have a large number of good and reasonable people. But we desperately need term limits for all Federal offices, and pay should be a lot close to what regular people make.
While I am wishing for what will never happen, I'd like to have my 35-year-old body again and a do-over on every major financial decision I made since 1970.
I bet 99% of the posters on the board are represented by lobbyists
Back in 1976, my dad was able to walk in and visit Senator John Tower in his office. What do you suppose would happen if a regular guy like you or me tried to visit our Representative or Senator?
The world had changed, and not for the better.
My checks were guilt-free. Certainly more ethical than the work of most elected officials in my lifetime.
Most elected officials I know are ethical.
Your socialism is their capitalism:
The majority of the nation is negatively effected by lobbying more than they benefit from it.
Why don't you fire the lobbyists who represent you? That would be a good example
Okay. Will I get to petition my government under your rules?Doc Holliday said:Why don't we change the rules on lobbying instead?Osodecentx said:Possibly.Doc Holliday said:I'm also negatively effected by lobbyists who don't represent me.Osodecentx said:You are represented by lobbyists at the state and federal levelDoc Holliday said:"Ethically" accepting bribes from K-Street lobbyists for their preferred rules changes that get us hooked on opioids and terrible insurance.Osodecentx said:Reliant was Houston Industries and became Reliant. Your checks should have been guilt free even though you were represented by a team of lobbyists because there is nothing wrong with it. Reliant and TXU had the same lobbyists (AECT) plus their own lobbyistsOldbear83 said:Now that's BS. Reliant never had a monopoly, and they were not even the largest company in Texas (that would be TXU).Osodecentx said:You worked for the company and cashed the check from a monopolist. They hired a multiple lobbyists trying to maintain their monopoly.Oldbear83 said:My employer was represented by lobbyists, not me. Rather an important difference.Osodecentx said:You were represented by lobbyists in former jobs who wanted to maintain a monopoly (Reliant?)Oldbear83 said:One advantage to decentralized government is that one person or group cannot easily control the whole. If Congress were only allowed to own homes outside DC and stay in dorm-type lodging while in session, that would be a help.Doc Holliday said:Government regulation is necessary, but it's carried out by people who fleece it. The problem is there's not enough regulation and accountability placed on regulators. That's where our republic is falling apart.Oldbear83 said:I think we lost the Republic in 1861. We've been a Federation with a growing Central control ever since.Doc Holliday said:I'm afraid of what you and others would justify if there was a virus with a 75% chance of survivability.Sam Lowry said:
Very little of what's being said matters, because almost all of it is based on a false premise.
I also don't think you realize how fragile our republic is.
Thomas Jefferson has already been canceled, Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Paine are banned from most school lessons, and George Washington's actual life has been replaced with a fiction less real than a Disney film.
What's sad is that today's American would not pay attention to Frederick Douglass or Robert Morris, either. No one who established the United States would be woke enough for the mobaratti.
We're a country of sellouts. Money talks. Cash is king.
I'm not opposed to centralized government, or even mass welfare in its theory. We're just so damn arrogant that we think our society is largely made up of good and honest people and it's just not true. We can't trust the people running government with the power we give them until we hold them accountable.
Make Lobbying a felony would help as well.
I do think we have a large number of good and reasonable people. But we desperately need term limits for all Federal offices, and pay should be a lot close to what regular people make.
While I am wishing for what will never happen, I'd like to have my 35-year-old body again and a do-over on every major financial decision I made since 1970.
I bet 99% of the posters on the board are represented by lobbyists
Back in 1976, my dad was able to walk in and visit Senator John Tower in his office. What do you suppose would happen if a regular guy like you or me tried to visit our Representative or Senator?
The world had changed, and not for the better.
My checks were guilt-free. Certainly more ethical than the work of most elected officials in my lifetime.
Most elected officials I know are ethical.
Your socialism is their capitalism:
The majority of the nation is negatively effected by lobbying more than they benefit from it.
Why don't you fire the lobbyists who represent you? That would be a good example
Not with money.Osodecentx said:Okay. Will I get to petition my government under your rules?Doc Holliday said:Why don't we change the rules on lobbying instead?Osodecentx said:Possibly.Doc Holliday said:I'm also negatively effected by lobbyists who don't represent me.Osodecentx said:You are represented by lobbyists at the state and federal levelDoc Holliday said:"Ethically" accepting bribes from K-Street lobbyists for their preferred rules changes that get us hooked on opioids and terrible insurance.Osodecentx said:Reliant was Houston Industries and became Reliant. Your checks should have been guilt free even though you were represented by a team of lobbyists because there is nothing wrong with it. Reliant and TXU had the same lobbyists (AECT) plus their own lobbyistsOldbear83 said:Now that's BS. Reliant never had a monopoly, and they were not even the largest company in Texas (that would be TXU).Osodecentx said:You worked for the company and cashed the check from a monopolist. They hired a multiple lobbyists trying to maintain their monopoly.Oldbear83 said:My employer was represented by lobbyists, not me. Rather an important difference.Osodecentx said:You were represented by lobbyists in former jobs who wanted to maintain a monopoly (Reliant?)Oldbear83 said:One advantage to decentralized government is that one person or group cannot easily control the whole. If Congress were only allowed to own homes outside DC and stay in dorm-type lodging while in session, that would be a help.Doc Holliday said:Government regulation is necessary, but it's carried out by people who fleece it. The problem is there's not enough regulation and accountability placed on regulators. That's where our republic is falling apart.Oldbear83 said:I think we lost the Republic in 1861. We've been a Federation with a growing Central control ever since.Doc Holliday said:I'm afraid of what you and others would justify if there was a virus with a 75% chance of survivability.Sam Lowry said:
Very little of what's being said matters, because almost all of it is based on a false premise.
I also don't think you realize how fragile our republic is.
Thomas Jefferson has already been canceled, Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Paine are banned from most school lessons, and George Washington's actual life has been replaced with a fiction less real than a Disney film.
What's sad is that today's American would not pay attention to Frederick Douglass or Robert Morris, either. No one who established the United States would be woke enough for the mobaratti.
We're a country of sellouts. Money talks. Cash is king.
I'm not opposed to centralized government, or even mass welfare in its theory. We're just so damn arrogant that we think our society is largely made up of good and honest people and it's just not true. We can't trust the people running government with the power we give them until we hold them accountable.
Make Lobbying a felony would help as well.
I do think we have a large number of good and reasonable people. But we desperately need term limits for all Federal offices, and pay should be a lot close to what regular people make.
While I am wishing for what will never happen, I'd like to have my 35-year-old body again and a do-over on every major financial decision I made since 1970.
I bet 99% of the posters on the board are represented by lobbyists
Back in 1976, my dad was able to walk in and visit Senator John Tower in his office. What do you suppose would happen if a regular guy like you or me tried to visit our Representative or Senator?
The world had changed, and not for the better.
My checks were guilt-free. Certainly more ethical than the work of most elected officials in my lifetime.
Most elected officials I know are ethical.
Your socialism is their capitalism:
The majority of the nation is negatively effected by lobbying more than they benefit from it.
Why don't you fire the lobbyists who represent you? That would be a good example
What rule changes are you proposing?Doc Holliday said:Not with money.Osodecentx said:Okay. Will I get to petition my government under your rules?Doc Holliday said:Why don't we change the rules on lobbying instead?Osodecentx said:Possibly.Doc Holliday said:I'm also negatively effected by lobbyists who don't represent me.Osodecentx said:You are represented by lobbyists at the state and federal levelDoc Holliday said:"Ethically" accepting bribes from K-Street lobbyists for their preferred rules changes that get us hooked on opioids and terrible insurance.Osodecentx said:Reliant was Houston Industries and became Reliant. Your checks should have been guilt free even though you were represented by a team of lobbyists because there is nothing wrong with it. Reliant and TXU had the same lobbyists (AECT) plus their own lobbyistsOldbear83 said:Now that's BS. Reliant never had a monopoly, and they were not even the largest company in Texas (that would be TXU).Osodecentx said:You worked for the company and cashed the check from a monopolist. They hired a multiple lobbyists trying to maintain their monopoly.Oldbear83 said:My employer was represented by lobbyists, not me. Rather an important difference.Osodecentx said:You were represented by lobbyists in former jobs who wanted to maintain a monopoly (Reliant?)Oldbear83 said:One advantage to decentralized government is that one person or group cannot easily control the whole. If Congress were only allowed to own homes outside DC and stay in dorm-type lodging while in session, that would be a help.Doc Holliday said:Government regulation is necessary, but it's carried out by people who fleece it. The problem is there's not enough regulation and accountability placed on regulators. That's where our republic is falling apart.Oldbear83 said:I think we lost the Republic in 1861. We've been a Federation with a growing Central control ever since.Doc Holliday said:I'm afraid of what you and others would justify if there was a virus with a 75% chance of survivability.Sam Lowry said:
Very little of what's being said matters, because almost all of it is based on a false premise.
I also don't think you realize how fragile our republic is.
Thomas Jefferson has already been canceled, Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Paine are banned from most school lessons, and George Washington's actual life has been replaced with a fiction less real than a Disney film.
What's sad is that today's American would not pay attention to Frederick Douglass or Robert Morris, either. No one who established the United States would be woke enough for the mobaratti.
We're a country of sellouts. Money talks. Cash is king.
I'm not opposed to centralized government, or even mass welfare in its theory. We're just so damn arrogant that we think our society is largely made up of good and honest people and it's just not true. We can't trust the people running government with the power we give them until we hold them accountable.
Make Lobbying a felony would help as well.
I do think we have a large number of good and reasonable people. But we desperately need term limits for all Federal offices, and pay should be a lot close to what regular people make.
While I am wishing for what will never happen, I'd like to have my 35-year-old body again and a do-over on every major financial decision I made since 1970.
I bet 99% of the posters on the board are represented by lobbyists
Back in 1976, my dad was able to walk in and visit Senator John Tower in his office. What do you suppose would happen if a regular guy like you or me tried to visit our Representative or Senator?
The world had changed, and not for the better.
My checks were guilt-free. Certainly more ethical than the work of most elected officials in my lifetime.
Most elected officials I know are ethical.
Your socialism is their capitalism:
The majority of the nation is negatively effected by lobbying more than they benefit from it.
Why don't you fire the lobbyists who represent you? That would be a good example
No, why would I? Do you feel like that's some kind of bombshell?Rawhide said:So you deny that anyone called it a pandemic of the unvaccinated?Sam Lowry said:
Very little of what's being said matters, because almost all of it is based on a false premise.
Reliant used to be Houston Lighting & Power for many years. I think you are confusing the Wholesale company with the Retail one.Osodecentx said:Reliant was Houston Industries and became Reliant. Your checks should have been guilt free even though you were represented by a team of lobbyists because there is nothing wrong with it. Reliant and TXU had the same lobbyists (AECT) plus their own lobbyistsOldbear83 said:Now that's BS. Reliant never had a monopoly, and they were not even the largest company in Texas (that would be TXU).Osodecentx said:You worked for the company and cashed the check from a monopolist. They hired a multiple lobbyists trying to maintain their monopoly.Oldbear83 said:My employer was represented by lobbyists, not me. Rather an important difference.Osodecentx said:You were represented by lobbyists in former jobs who wanted to maintain a monopoly (Reliant?)Oldbear83 said:One advantage to decentralized government is that one person or group cannot easily control the whole. If Congress were only allowed to own homes outside DC and stay in dorm-type lodging while in session, that would be a help.Doc Holliday said:Government regulation is necessary, but it's carried out by people who fleece it. The problem is there's not enough regulation and accountability placed on regulators. That's where our republic is falling apart.Oldbear83 said:I think we lost the Republic in 1861. We've been a Federation with a growing Central control ever since.Doc Holliday said:I'm afraid of what you and others would justify if there was a virus with a 75% chance of survivability.Sam Lowry said:
Very little of what's being said matters, because almost all of it is based on a false premise.
I also don't think you realize how fragile our republic is.
Thomas Jefferson has already been canceled, Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Paine are banned from most school lessons, and George Washington's actual life has been replaced with a fiction less real than a Disney film.
What's sad is that today's American would not pay attention to Frederick Douglass or Robert Morris, either. No one who established the United States would be woke enough for the mobaratti.
We're a country of sellouts. Money talks. Cash is king.
I'm not opposed to centralized government, or even mass welfare in its theory. We're just so damn arrogant that we think our society is largely made up of good and honest people and it's just not true. We can't trust the people running government with the power we give them until we hold them accountable.
Make Lobbying a felony would help as well.
I do think we have a large number of good and reasonable people. But we desperately need term limits for all Federal offices, and pay should be a lot close to what regular people make.
While I am wishing for what will never happen, I'd like to have my 35-year-old body again and a do-over on every major financial decision I made since 1970.
I bet 99% of the posters on the board are represented by lobbyists
Back in 1976, my dad was able to walk in and visit Senator John Tower in his office. What do you suppose would happen if a regular guy like you or me tried to visit our Representative or Senator?
The world had changed, and not for the better.
My checks were guilt-free. Certainly more ethical than the work of most elected officials in my lifetime.
Most elected officials I know are ethical.
And the last line is pure Jiminy Cricket.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
You'd be surprised how easy you can visit or speak with your representatives. President is the only position where access is extremely limited, but even then if you're diligent, involved, and attend events, you can get basic access. The issue is most people aren't interested in being involved. And yes, making a contribution helps, but it's not as expensive as you think.Oldbear83 said:My employer was represented by lobbyists, not me. Rather an important difference.Osodecentx said:You were represented by lobbyists in former jobs who wanted to maintain a monopoly (Reliant?)Oldbear83 said:One advantage to decentralized government is that one person or group cannot easily control the whole. If Congress were only allowed to own homes outside DC and stay in dorm-type lodging while in session, that would be a help.Doc Holliday said:Government regulation is necessary, but it's carried out by people who fleece it. The problem is there's not enough regulation and accountability placed on regulators. That's where our republic is falling apart.Oldbear83 said:I think we lost the Republic in 1861. We've been a Federation with a growing Central control ever since.Doc Holliday said:I'm afraid of what you and others would justify if there was a virus with a 75% chance of survivability.Sam Lowry said:
Very little of what's being said matters, because almost all of it is based on a false premise.
I also don't think you realize how fragile our republic is.
Thomas Jefferson has already been canceled, Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Paine are banned from most school lessons, and George Washington's actual life has been replaced with a fiction less real than a Disney film.
What's sad is that today's American would not pay attention to Frederick Douglass or Robert Morris, either. No one who established the United States would be woke enough for the mobaratti.
We're a country of sellouts. Money talks. Cash is king.
I'm not opposed to centralized government, or even mass welfare in its theory. We're just so damn arrogant that we think our society is largely made up of good and honest people and it's just not true. We can't trust the people running government with the power we give them until we hold them accountable.
Make Lobbying a felony would help as well.
I do think we have a large number of good and reasonable people. But we desperately need term limits for all Federal offices, and pay should be a lot close to what regular people make.
While I am wishing for what will never happen, I'd like to have my 35-year-old body again and a do-over on every major financial decision I made since 1970.
I bet 99% of the posters on the board are represented by lobbyists
Back in 1976, my dad was able to walk in and visit Senator John Tower in his office. What do you suppose would happen if a regular guy like you or me tried to visit our Representative or Senator?
The world had changed, and not for the better.
They can always get vaccinated and wear a mask to protect themselves. If they believe those things work, they should have no need to levy requirements on others to do the same.quash said:Rawhide said:funny, coming from the guy that has spent the last 2 years locking himself behind his walls because on the other side, it's a Covid apocalypse of epic proportions.Sam Lowry said:You keep banging your head and wondering why the walls are conspiring against you.Rawhide said:true storySam Lowry said:Cool story.Rawhide said:
Except that they were calling it a pandemic of the unvaccinated and if you didn't get one, then you're a murderer. Really, saw them say it on CNN.
Also recall that our resident idiots tried to insinuate (or even flat out say) that if you didn't get vaxxed, you were selfish and didn't care about other people because you'd be spreading it all around. Then lo and behold, come to find out that even the vaxxed were spreading it. So the narrative had to quickly change to "well, you need to get vaxxed because it will keep out of the hospital"
Are you trying to deny that the left was saying it was a pandemic of the unvaccinated, that the maskless were murderers, that liberals accused others of being selfish and not caring about other lives because they didn't get vaxxed?
Or are you just being a tard again?
Some people have immune deficiency issues. Show a little respect for differences.