Sam Lowry said:
Mothra said:
Canada2017 said:
Mothra said:
Canada2017 said:
Mothra said:
Canada2017 said:
Mothra said:
Unfortunately most of us must do this thing called work for a living. We can't all stay holed up until c19 goes away. The vast majority of people aren't as as lucky as you.
Our investment properties require almost daily interaction with tenants, contractors, landscapers , realtors, and title closers .
Toss in the inevitable trips to the post office, doctors office, and various retail stores....'holing up' 24/7 is not a reality for almost anyone.
But again.......everyone here knows this and has known it for months .
Yet it won't be a week and the same comments will re appear still again .
Glad to hear you acknowledge we couldn't have stay holed up, which I recall was generally your solution to the pandemic. That was never a viable option.
So tired of wasting time with the same dead heads. Dumb as grass but truly believe they are brilliant.
Businesses and events that involve large number of people need to be regulated. Closed where/when necessary .
As immortals who can't add two plus two....get infected...then infect others who are not immortal .
Damn, some of you clowns really need to disappear into your John Wayne pseudo realities and never re emerge .
Meanwhile the rest of us have families to protect.
Some interesting revisionist history here. Are you truly suggesting that the only quarantines and closures you proposed are businesses and events involving large gatherings of people? No, you wanted a lot more than that.
Businesses and events that involved large number of people were shut down, just FYI. It truly is asinine to suggest that is the cause of our death total, when we have no evidence at all that the NFL, NBA or restaurants with limited capacity caused what we are currently experiencing.
You complain a lot, but offer few if any viable solutions, nor any evidence that people like me have caused more deaths. And yet, you sit on your perch and take potshots at others who don't have the luxury of holing up in their basement.
Perhaps you are the one who needs to stay cowered in the basement, and cut the cord to the internet. You've turned into an easily triggered *******.
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You haven't 'turned into an easily triggered ******* ' .......you've remained an ignorant ******* from the beginning of this pandemic . As the death counts continue to rise ( now almost 500,000 ) you merely double down.
Fortunately a handful of people who can actually think have developed a solution .
Will the hopelessly ignorant learn anything from their misguided sense of priorities for the next pandemic ?
Not a chance .
You've proposed no viable solutions. None. Your idea for shutting down the economy didn't work in Europe and it hasn't worked here in the states with draconian shutdowns. One need look no further than CA to see the foolishness of that approach. And your idea that allowing sports teams to play would somehow spread the virus also hasn't borne out. More chicken little b.s.
If you want to take a vaccine that causes your cells to build the spike protein for covid and have a body indefinitely at war with itself with no studies whatsoever on long term side effects - please go get your jab already. But remember to continue to social distance and wear masks indefinitely because it won't keep you from spreading COVID.
Is there any such thing as a non-draconian shutdown? What would it look like?
Well, first it would take people sitting down - at a distance - and calmly sorting out what we
know from what the media
claims, regardless of perspective.
We know, for example, that COVID does not
directly kill many people at all, but
does make pre-existing conditions, especially respiratory and circulatory, much worse. This creates the controversy in categorizing
primary cause of death, which is setting a lot of people against each other for no really good purpose.
We know that the COVID affects children far less than adults, and we know that adults in the 20-50 age range seem to be the worst and taking basic prophylactic steps (mask, hand washing, distance).
We know urban areas see much faster transmission than rural areas.
We have seen conflicting information on whether 2 masks makes a difference, but wearing a mask clearly helps.
We know the vaccines are generally effective so far, but there is more to confirm.
We know shutdowns in general do more harm than good, and have been abused for political advantage. This not only damages the economy, but public trust in politicians.
We know politicians refuse to share in suffering, and will say anything to gain political advantage.
We have learned the difference between doctors and nurses who actually
treat patients and arrogant types who have an M.D. but are clueless when talking to real patients.
Start from there and see what we can do.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier